US AFA Labor Thread

[HP_JACK]

Let's not forget who was behind the LAST ouster of a MEC President. That's right folks, non other than Dorene, our current MEC Vice-President (who rode in on the coat tails of Lisa). Guess who becomes the President should she be successful, once again, with a SECOND attempt to oust a Pres? Yeah, right, no motive here. Leopards don't change their spots. I'm sticking with Lisa and Jeff. Innocent until proven guilty.

Then Recall All 3!!!!!!! RECALL, RECALL, RECALL!

 

[beachboy]

Hold the horse right there bucko! Recall all 3? Trust me we have been there in AFA Philly, we had very bad situation here with good people that got wiped out with the wave. Very few here would repeat the mistake of 2005 here. It was a necessary evil and look where we are now, not any better off. Really almost worse.
Let this play out but while not knowing the entire story, lets not throw the baby out with the bath water.

 

[HP_JACK]

lets not throw the baby out with the bath water.

Sorry Just Venting! I didn't mean it all 3 for real. This whole thing is very upsetting for all of us in PHX! So one persons action under the direction of another the whole place errupts in Chaos. Mike's briefcase was compromised and I don't see anyone owning up to that. All I see is finger pointing. This whole situation affects all of us East and West. The people on the West are feeding right into Lisa and Jeffs hands with their whole hotline, its sickening!

 

[beachboy]

Take a deep breath. Each side has a version of events. Heck I don't even know what was taken but knowing Flores he would not take such a step unless it was something serious. That said, I don't trust the East officers that much either. As a reminder the company reads these boards so lets try to tame our disgust and pick up your phones. Make some calls and emails. Pressure your reps for info. You are the union and have a right to know.
But don't take things at face value. If your council is placed in conservatorship, God help us all. It will take weeks to get new elections and people caught up on negotiations. I will say this. If they did take something without permission, they MUST go. Even if it means delaying negotiations.

 

[AZMtnFA]

I'm totally disgusted with this hotline! It points the fingers at everyone else for what they (Lisa & Jeff) did. Let's blame it on the East, Let's blame it on Mike, are you kidding? How is this communication to the members. The entire hotline is a lie! The hearing board is already set for June 24th to coincide with the CWA conference, why is she acting like she doesn't know when it is? Why does she make it sound like Mike is going to take over our council? This is BAD NEWS for all of us! Please GOD help us!

The West mec has not been notified that a hearing date is set. Where did you get the information on the hearing being held on June 24? How do you know the hearing board was set to coincide with the cwa conference? Do you have inside information or special contact with AFA in DC or anyone connected with the hearing board. Sounds like you may have some interested parties that want to see the West mecp and s.t. get ousted from office. How do you know for a fact the hotline is a lie? Were you there when this thing took place? I think Mike is going off of info given to him by the West vp.

If there was substance to the charges then why didn't the East mec support Mike in filing the charges? I heard that PHL lecp John Mccorkle took a neutral position when the mec talked about this. If so, why?

C.R.

 

[beachboy]

McCorkle taking a position on if he wanted cream or sugar in his coffee would be a stretch. He is not going to do anything that makes him choose a side or take a stand on anything period! Read my post above. GET IT? Forget what McCorkle says because he is a man of few words these days and when he does say something it's fluff garbage forced out by the membership when he gets pressure. Which is mounting by the day.

 

[Happy_People]

I guess I'll chime in. I think that Hotline was very distasteful. It has no substance and is geared at making the West FA's think this is something conjured up by Mike Flores. I think it was a poor decision to put out that Hotline! It leaves a lot of questions and speculation which lead to rumors. If it is true that Jeff the MEC S/T took Mike's things he needs to be held accountable. If he did it because Lisa told him to do it, she needs to be held accountable. Lisa acts all innocent in public but she is crazy is all get out as long as I have known her.

 

[HP_JACK]

Do you have inside information or special contact with AFA in DC or anyone connected with the hearing board.

Honay! I have my sources, It's called people at work with Big Mouths! LOL

P.S Were you there? You claim to know so much, share with the class. Where is or inside info coming from?

 

[HP_JACK]

The Charges:

http://www.unionvoice.org/ct/r1111111jPVi/

 

[BMIBABYgirl737]

Wow....TOUCHDOWN FOR TEMPE! Way to play into their divide and conquer scheme. Can't wait to snap back in 2011.

 

[Travelpro72]

Lisa didn't do anything wrong? It was Mike behind the whole thing? Jesus.....sell that to the OJ Simpson jury. I mean PLEEEEEASE. I'm not always a great Mike Flores supporter but that witch out west is nothing but a chronic whiner and foot stomper with very little experience to be in the position she's in. She an amateur and unprofessional. You can see she's a nut by just watching the crew news sessions. That hotline is a COMPLETE joke and you west flight attendants deserve better. WE as a group deserve better by AFA PERIOD. What a disgrace.

 

[BajaBabe]

The evidence provided at the hearing will set the record straight. This breaks the fiduciary trust for others that should take top priority. We have all been hoping in vain that we as a group would be taken seriously how can we ? Being a thief to feed information to the other side is impossible for me to understand. Having sat on three negotiating committee's I am so disgusted. Why do you as an LEC President think it is good manners to go into someone elses brief case. Then here you have Council 70 not taking action. Hey guys this is serious business I want a meeting in Philadelphia to encourage a swift and speedy trial. This takes our negotiations into the lake of scum. Oh Lisa was it that important that you had to screw one side for the other? And how long did the MEC plan to keep this from the membership? Being treated like an illegal child is unbelievable. What can we do to change this?

 

[flybynite]

I've gone back and read that letter several times and the more I read it, the more burned up I get about it.

And the reason is because it leads one to believe that the East Mec will control the West Mec/Lec office as well as control the Section 6 negotiations. And wants to. As if this has been something that has been coveted. !!!!(scream)

Ladies and gentlemen of the West please don't think this. It can't be done. Please bone up on the process for recall of an Officer of the Union. You are looking at a new election of union reps. If you think you're up to it...throw your hat in the ring. It's a Huge commitment but well worth it.

In Solidarity

 

[LCC_#1]

Does any of this surprise anyone? From the beginning, the 66 has tried to undermine the East MEC. Who can forget how before the merger ink was dry, the 66(6) West MEC was attempting to change the AFA DOH bylaws. I feel badly for the West f/a's. They deserve better. There are wonderful stews out west and this current EVIL 66(6) group is doing the West f/a's a disservice! If true, throw the bums out, Westies.

 

[beachboy]

LCC, lets extend your statement to the East people as well. WE DESERVE BETTER. So you are based in CLT correct? Start looking at your own council. Certainly a lot to do there. PHL I can't even begin to discribe our problem! As Dr Phil would say-whats your "payoff" Obviously you all get some sick payoff to voting in nerdowells. Look inside yourselves otherwise you all deserve to make $30,000 for the rest of you life and sit 24/7 reserve.