galley princess
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- Nov 4, 2007
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This is an except of an eline from AFA.
PAIRING GENERATION AND REVIEW
Company Proposal AFA Proposal
-Same Pairings with the pilots
-No advanced pairing review -Pair with pilots if afforded the same duty rigs, FAR duty time and rest requirements
-Pairing review and input by AFA
-Mixture of one, two, three and four day pairings-no more than 20% four-day pairings per domicile
The JNC believes that flying pairings with the pilots will provide Flight Attendants better benefits such as better duty rigs and pilot FAR duty time and rest requirements.
East Flight Attendants have been paired with the pilots for decades. There are several reasons for this. Those reasons include safety, Crew Resource Management (CRM) and the same duty rigs and FAR protections as the pilots. AFA will not accept a proposal that does not include the same duty rigs as the pilots. There is something inherently wrong with flying the same trip as a pilot and receiving less credit.
The JNC recognizes there is a value to the current West Flight Attendants' ability to fly long haul high credit one-day turns. The JNC proposal includes the ability to carve out certain one-day only turns that exceed eight hours of block time. The committee believes East Flight Attendants would see a value in having more high credit one-day turns (think, one-day island turns).
The JNC has proposed AFA have a stronger role in pairing input and review. The Company only wants to allow pairing review, with little to no input. It does not do AFA much good to only have pairing review after the pairings have been built. AFA wants to have the same review period prior to the final pairing generation as the pilots.
The JNC believes there should be a reasonable mix of pairings and will not accept a proposal that increases the number of four day trips above the amount currently generated on the East system.
The idea of separating from the pilots has been considered. IMHO, there are significant reasons to stay with them, I tend to favor it basically because of CRM. As indicated, AFA is trying to accomodate the existing high time West one days, which I think is a positive thing for both the company and the F/A. High time one days are efficient and frankly cheap for the company, since there is peanuts per diem and as of this contract, they are domestic pay unless on the 757. PHL will continue to have a significant traffic to the Caribbean and S. America and they are tailor made for one days. Undoubtedly there are applicable trips out of the other bases.
As for satellites, well, I would be for them, (the great sucking sound out of PHL would include my meteoric rise in seniority), however DP also has stated that he feels we have "too many bases" so getting satellites seems unlikley.
The frustration that is being felt is due to the nasty fact that until we get to within striking distance (pun intended) of our contract end date, we simply have no leverage. DP has stated that it's cheaper for him to continue as is, vs. a combined new contract. The blockage caused by the pilots will only be dislodged when the stakes are higher.
PAIRING GENERATION AND REVIEW
Company Proposal AFA Proposal
-Same Pairings with the pilots
-No advanced pairing review -Pair with pilots if afforded the same duty rigs, FAR duty time and rest requirements
-Pairing review and input by AFA
-Mixture of one, two, three and four day pairings-no more than 20% four-day pairings per domicile
The JNC believes that flying pairings with the pilots will provide Flight Attendants better benefits such as better duty rigs and pilot FAR duty time and rest requirements.
East Flight Attendants have been paired with the pilots for decades. There are several reasons for this. Those reasons include safety, Crew Resource Management (CRM) and the same duty rigs and FAR protections as the pilots. AFA will not accept a proposal that does not include the same duty rigs as the pilots. There is something inherently wrong with flying the same trip as a pilot and receiving less credit.
The JNC recognizes there is a value to the current West Flight Attendants' ability to fly long haul high credit one-day turns. The JNC proposal includes the ability to carve out certain one-day only turns that exceed eight hours of block time. The committee believes East Flight Attendants would see a value in having more high credit one-day turns (think, one-day island turns).
The JNC has proposed AFA have a stronger role in pairing input and review. The Company only wants to allow pairing review, with little to no input. It does not do AFA much good to only have pairing review after the pairings have been built. AFA wants to have the same review period prior to the final pairing generation as the pilots.
The JNC believes there should be a reasonable mix of pairings and will not accept a proposal that increases the number of four day trips above the amount currently generated on the East system.
The idea of separating from the pilots has been considered. IMHO, there are significant reasons to stay with them, I tend to favor it basically because of CRM. As indicated, AFA is trying to accomodate the existing high time West one days, which I think is a positive thing for both the company and the F/A. High time one days are efficient and frankly cheap for the company, since there is peanuts per diem and as of this contract, they are domestic pay unless on the 757. PHL will continue to have a significant traffic to the Caribbean and S. America and they are tailor made for one days. Undoubtedly there are applicable trips out of the other bases.
As for satellites, well, I would be for them, (the great sucking sound out of PHL would include my meteoric rise in seniority), however DP also has stated that he feels we have "too many bases" so getting satellites seems unlikley.
The frustration that is being felt is due to the nasty fact that until we get to within striking distance (pun intended) of our contract end date, we simply have no leverage. DP has stated that it's cheaper for him to continue as is, vs. a combined new contract. The blockage caused by the pilots will only be dislodged when the stakes are higher.
Please you guys down there are just amazing! You give Ann C a blank check to just float around and do squat. Not only are Ann and Glenda pathetic, but so is the entire base for allowing it. Is she still on her kick ass and takes names tour? I know you read this Ann....what was your name on here again? You are a phony and a fraud.....and on final notice from International for being over budget! Do I hang the 1549 picture here or there? Seems all your concerned with at the MEC meeting the other day. You madam are a disgrace.
