ALPA/USAPA topic for week of 1/31 to 2/6

Status
Not open for further replies.
Just got this in an email... I guess the gloves are coming off.


Leaving ALPA Means Leaving
Aeromedical Behind

ALPA’s Aeromedical Office, which pilots often call AMAS (Aviation Medicine Advisory Service), routinely works to help pilots stay on, or return to, the line. AMAS’s mission broadly encompasses two main functions: policy consultation with ALPA and individual pilot medical assistance. In addition to advising ALPA’s National Officers on medical issues, AMAS’s consultation includes such things as administering the HIMS program, helping with medical research, petitioning the FAA regarding medical policy changes, and consulting with ALPA Master Executive Council volunteer Aeromedical, Pilot Assistance, Professional Standards, Critical Incident Response Program, and Training Committees.

When an ALPA pilot so requests, the Aeromedical advisors review detailed information about the individual pilot’s medical problems as they might relate to health, welfare, continued employment, disability, or FAA medical certification. This special service is provided at no charge to any ALPA member in good standing.

AMAS Matters

The Aeromedical Office was established in 1969 in response to an ALPA 1968 Board of Directors action. The Association retained Dr. Richard Masters to advise ALPA’s president and to provide professional medical assistance to ALPA members on request.

Under Dr. Masters’ direction, AMAS provided assistance to more than 15,000 ALPA pilots and developed a medical specialist referral system to help evaluate and treat disorders that might threaten a pilot’s FAA medical certification.

Over the years, AMAS has also been instrumental in getting the FAA to change many restrictive policies and allow pilots to regain or maintain their medical certification, often with conditions that the FAA previously considered permanently disqualifying, such as coronary bypass surgery, angioplasty, isolated seizure, and a number of others.

The Aeromedical Office is also responsible for administering the ALPA HIMS contract, funded by the FAA, which identifies, treats, and helps return to duty pilots suffering from alcoholism or substance dependence. Since 1973, with the cooperation of the FAA and almost all the airlines in North America, more than 4,000 airline pilots have entered this unique program to save their flying careers and, in many cases, their lives. For more information, check out the HIMS website and the “HIMS: The Quiet Success Story†article in the November/December 2007 issue of Air Line Pilot.

In January 1993, Dr. Masters retired as the Aeromedical advisor. Dr. Donald Hudson was appointed as his successor and remains in that position today. Assisting him in AMAS’s Aurora, Colorado, office are Dr. Phillip E. Parker, Dr. Quay C. Snyder, Dr. Robert W. Weien, and Dr. Thomas T. Yasuhara; Gerri Forbes, the office administrator; Jay Clyde, the FAA case manager; and administrative support personnel.

Experts on Call

An ALPA member who contacts the ALPA Aeromedical Office will first speak with one of the administrative assistants, who are responsible for obtaining initial information (ALPA member number, name, airline, general reason for call, etc.). An assistant also confirms that the pilot is an ALPA member in good standing.

Once the assistant obtains initial information, one of the physicians will return the call (usually within two hours) to discuss the case and to answer questions. If the doctor recommends separate diagnostic evaluations by an outside physician, the pilot is responsible for those costs. When pilots are referred to an outside physician, AMAS typically recommends medical consultants who are known for their expertise in a specific specialty of medicine and are usually also acquainted with aviation medicine principles.

Each specific referral is tailored to the needs of the individual pilot and depends upon the medical problem, the pilot’s past medical history, and the availability of specialists. In every instance, the Office carefully analyzes all data to ensure that each appeal case is completely documented.

Often, problems arising in FAA certification are secondary to, or caused by, inadequate or improper outside medical management. Busy private physicians and clinics usually do not have the time or interest to prepare the detailed paperwork that the FAA requires. The AMAS staff can also advise a pilot about how best to prepare a case for presentation to the FAA and the most expeditious way to have the case successfully resolved.

With the pilot’s permission, AMAS staff can communicate directly with the FAA and serve as an advocate for pilots with medical problems. However, in each case, the medical advice that AMAS gives to the pilot will be consistent with good medical practice and give appropriate weight to the individual’s health and ability to safely perform airline flying. Of course, the advice provided to the pilot is only that. Ultimately, the pilot decides whether to follow the course of action that AMAS has recommended.

Aeromedical Services Are Not Automatic

As with the other “service provider†functions that ALPA supplies, the Aeromedical Office has seen a large growth in demand for its professional expertise. In fact, AMAS doctors assisted just shy of 700 US Airways (East) pilots during 2007 alone; of these cases, approximately 340 involved properly preparing the pilot’s medical record package for FAA review. At America West, AMAS assisted approximately 20 percent of the pilot group, resulting in about 165 active cases. From helping a pilot keep an FAA medical certificate to answering major and minor medical questions, the ultimate goal of the Aeromedical Office is to keep pilots healthy and flying.

AMAS services are available to others in the aviation community with ALPA’s consent. Dr. Hudson and his professional team of medical examiners also serve pilots from the Allied Pilots Association, the Southwest Airlines Pilots’ Association, and other independent airline pilot unions. The US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA), however, will not fall into those ranks.

In a letter addressed to Capt. John Prater, president of ALPA, Dr. Hudson wrote the following:

“This letter is to confirm that if USAPA becomes the collective bargaining unit for the US Airways pilots, Aviation Medicine Advisory Service (AMAS) will not enter into any agreement to provide Aeromedical services for that group.â€

Any ALPA member in good standing, however, can call the Aeromedical Office at 303-341-4435, Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. to 4 p.m. mountain time, and let the most qualified aviation doctors in the world offer their advice. That’s a top-flight industry service that will be hard to replace.


Even I didn't think this could really happen...
 
Just got this in an email... I guess the gloves are coming off.


Leaving ALPA Means Leaving
Aeromedical Behind

<snip>

Even I didn't think this could really happen...

USAPA has no "standing", yet. They do not even have a contract with Aeromedical. Two items that must be rectified before Dr. Hudson can answer "yes".

It is just Prater fear-mongering.

You west guys fall for the simple stuff, still.
 
This is just another example of ALPO believing they are the only game in town.
There is an excellent medical group that will help anyone regardless of union affiliation get their medical back. It's called LeftSeat.com
http://www.leftseat.com/.
They can be contacted at: 800-699-4457
There is no reason USAPA can't retain these people to duplicate ALPO's aeromedical benefits.
 
This is just another example of ALPO believing they are the only game in town.
There is an excellent medical group that will help anyone regardless of union affiliation get their medical back. It's called LeftSeat.com
http://www.leftseat.com/.
They can be contacted at: 800-699-4457
There is no reason USAPA can't retain these people to duplicate ALPO's aeromedical benefits.

Pete Lambrau is one of our pilots and will be at the USAPA show friday. He will give a talk about our ability to bring aeromedical services inhouse. He has been INSTRUMENTAL in getting the medicals back for any pilot he has worked with here and they swear buy him to get done what ALPA has failed to do for our own. Their going to tape it and put it on the website I believe. Of course as you mention he is certainly not the only one. AOPA has an excellent services as well and I understand affiliation with AOPA would also be a good thing.
 
Just got this in an email... I guess the gloves are coming off.


Leaving ALPA Means Leaving
Aeromedical Behind

ALPA’s Aeromedical Office, which pilots often call AMAS (Aviation Medicine Advisory Service), routinely works to help pilots stay on, or return to, the line. AMAS’s mission broadly encompasses two main functions: policy consultation with ALPA and individual pilot medical assistance. In addition to advising ALPA’s National Officers on medical issues, AMAS’s consultation includes such things as administering the HIMS program, helping with medical research, petitioning the FAA regarding medical policy changes, and consulting with ALPA Master Executive Council volunteer Aeromedical, Pilot Assistance, Professional Standards, Critical Incident Response Program, and Training Committees.

When an ALPA pilot so requests, the Aeromedical advisors review detailed information about the individual pilot’s medical problems as they might relate to health, welfare, continued employment, disability, or FAA medical certification. This special service is provided at no charge to any ALPA member in good standing.

AMAS Matters

The Aeromedical Office was established in 1969 in response to an ALPA 1968 Board of Directors action. The Association retained Dr. Richard Masters to advise ALPA’s president and to provide professional medical assistance to ALPA members on request.

Under Dr. Masters’ direction, AMAS provided assistance to more than 15,000 ALPA pilots and developed a medical specialist referral system to help evaluate and treat disorders that might threaten a pilot’s FAA medical certification.

Over the years, AMAS has also been instrumental in getting the FAA to change many restrictive policies and allow pilots to regain or maintain their medical certification, often with conditions that the FAA previously considered permanently disqualifying, such as coronary bypass surgery, angioplasty, isolated seizure, and a number of others.

The Aeromedical Office is also responsible for administering the ALPA HIMS contract, funded by the FAA, which identifies, treats, and helps return to duty pilots suffering from alcoholism or substance dependence. Since 1973, with the cooperation of the FAA and almost all the airlines in North America, more than 4,000 airline pilots have entered this unique program to save their flying careers and, in many cases, their lives. For more information, check out the HIMS website and the “HIMS: The Quiet Success Story†article in the November/December 2007 issue of Air Line Pilot.

In January 1993, Dr. Masters retired as the Aeromedical advisor. Dr. Donald Hudson was appointed as his successor and remains in that position today. Assisting him in AMAS’s Aurora, Colorado, office are Dr. Phillip E. Parker, Dr. Quay C. Snyder, Dr. Robert W. Weien, and Dr. Thomas T. Yasuhara; Gerri Forbes, the office administrator; Jay Clyde, the FAA case manager; and administrative support personnel.

Experts on Call

An ALPA member who contacts the ALPA Aeromedical Office will first speak with one of the administrative assistants, who are responsible for obtaining initial information (ALPA member number, name, airline, general reason for call, etc.). An assistant also confirms that the pilot is an ALPA member in good standing.

Once the assistant obtains initial information, one of the physicians will return the call (usually within two hours) to discuss the case and to answer questions. If the doctor recommends separate diagnostic evaluations by an outside physician, the pilot is responsible for those costs. When pilots are referred to an outside physician, AMAS typically recommends medical consultants who are known for their expertise in a specific specialty of medicine and are usually also acquainted with aviation medicine principles.

Each specific referral is tailored to the needs of the individual pilot and depends upon the medical problem, the pilot’s past medical history, and the availability of specialists. In every instance, the Office carefully analyzes all data to ensure that each appeal case is completely documented.

Often, problems arising in FAA certification are secondary to, or caused by, inadequate or improper outside medical management. Busy private physicians and clinics usually do not have the time or interest to prepare the detailed paperwork that the FAA requires. The AMAS staff can also advise a pilot about how best to prepare a case for presentation to the FAA and the most expeditious way to have the case successfully resolved.

With the pilot’s permission, AMAS staff can communicate directly with the FAA and serve as an advocate for pilots with medical problems. However, in each case, the medical advice that AMAS gives to the pilot will be consistent with good medical practice and give appropriate weight to the individual’s health and ability to safely perform airline flying. Of course, the advice provided to the pilot is only that. Ultimately, the pilot decides whether to follow the course of action that AMAS has recommended.

Aeromedical Services Are Not Automatic

As with the other “service provider†functions that ALPA supplies, the Aeromedical Office has seen a large growth in demand for its professional expertise. In fact, AMAS doctors assisted just shy of 700 US Airways (East) pilots during 2007 alone; of these cases, approximately 340 involved properly preparing the pilot’s medical record package for FAA review. At America West, AMAS assisted approximately 20 percent of the pilot group, resulting in about 165 active cases. From helping a pilot keep an FAA medical certificate to answering major and minor medical questions, the ultimate goal of the Aeromedical Office is to keep pilots healthy and flying.

AMAS services are available to others in the aviation community with ALPA’s consent. Dr. Hudson and his professional team of medical examiners also serve pilots from the Allied Pilots Association, the Southwest Airlines Pilots’ Association, and other independent airline pilot unions. The US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA), however, will not fall into those ranks.

In a letter addressed to Capt. John Prater, president of ALPA, Dr. Hudson wrote the following:

“This letter is to confirm that if USAPA becomes the collective bargaining unit for the US Airways pilots, Aviation Medicine Advisory Service (AMAS) will not enter into any agreement to provide Aeromedical services for that group.â€

Any ALPA member in good standing, however, can call the Aeromedical Office at 303-341-4435, Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. to 4 p.m. mountain time, and let the most qualified aviation doctors in the world offer their advice. That’s a top-flight industry service that will be hard to replace.


Even I didn't think this could really happen...

Not like other services are availible. We have doctors who just so happen to fly for us that have helped our own pilots much more than ALPA ever has. I know of several pilots who have dealt with Pete Lambrou and have had nothing but GREAT things to say about him. Those on medical, do not worry, we have EXCELLENT resources AMONG US to handle at least every contingency ALPA handles and in FACT with more agility as well.

Lions and Tigers and Bears...OH MY!!
 
Excellent posts on the aeromedical. I've talked with pilots who have had their medicals returned with the help of Pete. No thanks to ALPA and their self proclaimed vaunted medical services. In some cases the ALPA program was more a hindrance than any help.
 
In the mid 90's Harvey Watt(insurance) helped my brother get his medical back while ALPO Aeromedical was giving him the run-around the medical system. It's my understanding USAPA is going to use Harvey Watt for pilot medical insurance.
 
In the mid 90's Harvey Watt(insurance) helped my brother get his medical back while ALPO Aeromedical was giving him the run-around the medical system. It's my understanding USAPA is going to use Harvey Watt for pilot medical insurance.

Well, there you have it folks! A case report with N=1. Null hypothesis disproved. With this kind of powerful evidence backed up with such strong power analysis I guess we can only conclude there is a significant difference between a concrete aeromedical committee and a fictitious, abstract one. Let's all switch to USAPA. Oh the genius of it all...
 
Excellent posts on the aeromedical. I've talked with pilots who have had their medicals returned with the help of Pete. No thanks to ALPA and their self proclaimed vaunted medical services. In some cases the ALPA program was more a hindrance than any help.


ALPA puts out a decent show but even if it is more than smoke and mirrors there seems to be too many pilots that have come to the conclusion that ALPA in effect stuffs or steals the ballot box for its own design.

And ironically enough as ALPA panics and reverts back to their tried and true methods they don't seem to be doing themselves any favors to reduce that perception.
 
Well, there you have it folks! A case report with N=1. Null hypothesis disproved. With this kind of powerful evidence backed up with such strong power analysis I guess we can only conclude there is a significant difference between a concrete aeromedical committee and a fictitious, abstract one. Let's all switch to USAPA. Oh the genius of it all...
Harvey Watt would be a very good choice, I would have no problem with them if this is true. I think they would be better than ALPA aeromedical, I also had a friend who had a problem and got more help from Harvey Watt.
 
FYI:


The Difference Between USAPA and ALPA

"Sometimes the best thing to do is just wait – eventually the other side will make your case for you."

Sometimes, one runs across a missive that’s just too good to pass up; we are, of course, referring to the January 31 letter to the East and West MECs from the ALPA President, and the February 1 letter from same to the ALPA BOD. While a majority of US Airways pilots (including 9 out of 10 active East pilots) have already decided that there are no “benefits of ALPA representation,â€￾ and are well aware of the glaring differences between USAPA and ALPA, we have to thank the ALPA President and the East and West MECs for showcasing those differences for those still uncertain.

In the above referenced letters it is suggested that “no elected ALPA representative or ALPA committee member of principle would try to serve two unions.â€￾ If one knew nothing else, if there were no other issues, if the Nicolau award never existed, that statement alone explains succinctly the difference between USAPA and ALPA - USAPA Reps and committee members serve the pilots, not the union.

And again; “For ALPA LECs, representatives, or committee members to support another union not only represents acting contrary to the best interests of the Association…â€￾ At USAPA, the interests of the pilots are what matters. Here, ALPA National makes it absolutely clear, the “interests of the pilotsâ€￾ and the “interests of the Associationâ€￾ are not synonymous.

As-if the above was not enough, examples are even provided as to the purposeful ignoring of the stated wishes of a majority of US Airways pilots – that discussions of seniority implementation issues, pay, work rules, benefits, and career security cannot occur prior to vacating the Nicolau award. Yet, notwithstanding the clearly known wishes of virtually every single one of their fellow line pilots, and in opposition to numerous MEC resolutions to the contrary, the East MEC officers now propose that retention of the Award best serves their peers. We find this incredible. The contrast: at ALPA, the pilots decide and are ignored; at USAPA, the pilots decide, period.

As-if the contrast had not been clearly enough drawn, the ALPA President discusses “USAPA’s threat to undercut the efforts of the US Airways pilots,â€￾ again ignoring the reality that 9 out of 10 active East pilots and over 50% of all pilots in-fact believe it is ALPA that is undercutting the efforts of the US Airways pilots.

So disconnected are both the sender and recipients of the letter in question that they are happy to utilize pilots’ resources against the pilots, yet display concern when the pilots might utilize their own resources for their own betterment and to make their will known. Succinctly, the resources discussed belong to the pilots; there is no confusion about this within USAPA.

Emphasizing the requirement that the pilots’ current representatives march in lockstep with a conflicted, multi-carrier union, the ALPA President has informed the BOD he intends to place in trusteeship any LEC that gives the wrong answers to questions he will pose. Personal interviews have begun; one can easily infer the nature of these friendly calls. The ALPA President excuses this union litmus test using typical misrepresentation of the facts, by stating, “…some AAA pilots through “USAPAâ€￾ to try to replace ALPA…â€￾ Sounds a bit different than the truth, which is, “Nine out of ten active East pilots want ALPA off the property.â€￾

The ALPA President's actions with regard to threatened trusteeship drive home the difference between USAPA and ALPA – the agenda on US Airways property is being driven not by the desires of the US Airways pilots, but instead by a conflicted, multi-carrier union, interested only in its own survival. As you read the following quotes from the January 31st and February 1st letters referenced above, we suggest you consider about whom ALPA National is concerned (emphasis added):

“For ALPA LECs, representatives, or committee members to support another union… represents acting contrary to the best interests of the Association…â€￾

“I commend our pilot representatives on both the East and West for standing up for their Union.â€￾

“ will contact all ALPA local council representatives and committee members on their decision to support ALPA.â€￾

“I sincerely hope that each will stand up publicly for ALPA.â€￾

“…if any of them state that they support a different union, then I will ask them to resign their ALPA position immediately.â€￾

“Should any elected ALPA local council representative fail at this critical time to make a clear and unequivocal statement of support for ALPA… I will [place]… that local council in emergency trusteeship.â€￾

“Your national officers and staff are fully engaged in the drive to keep the AAA and AWA pilots as our members.â€￾

And we saved the best for last:

“… our fellow pilots will realize how much they are valued as our Union sisters and brothers.â€￾ (We couldn't help it, we added this one to the humor section of the USAPA web site.)

Sometimes, when enough “discussionâ€￾ is going on, the best thing to do is just wait – eventually the other side will make your case for you.

We suggest that when you see a letter signed, “In solidarity,â€￾ you ask the question, “with whom?â€￾
 
"We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful."
Warren Buffett
 
FYI:

Fellow Pilots,

Over the past few weeks this pilot group has really shown its resolve, and has sent a very clear message to the current Collective Bargaining Agent.

As election day draws near, it is imperative that everyone stays informed.

In our continuing effort to provide you with such information, we have planned for the Charlotte Road Show on February 8th a variety of speakers. Regarding insurance and medical will be the principles of Empowered Benefits and representatives of Harvey Watt. Capt. Peter Lambrou, MD will address Aeromedical issues. Mr. Lee Seham, USAPA's lead counsel, will be available to answer your questions. USAPA's officers and volunteers will also be on hand.

PowerPoint presentations will run throughout the day providing information on structure and services. Logo items and handouts on a number of important topics will be
available. Please stop by and meet these individuals between the hours of 0900-1700. They will be more than happy to answer any of your questions.

Remember, collectively we can build a union for pilots by pilots.

Fly safe, and thank you for your continuing support.
 
Well, there you have it folks! A case report with N=1. Null hypothesis disproved. With this kind of powerful evidence backed up with such strong power analysis I guess we can only conclude there is a significant difference between a concrete aeromedical committee and a fictitious, abstract one. Let's all switch to USAPA. Oh the genius of it all...

prechill I made a very brief statement about one case, a complex medical case that involved my brother. In a nutshell Harvey Watt got him back in the cockpit while ALPO aeromedical was giving him the run around. Fact is Harvey Watt put him back to work, ALPO aeromedical did not.

Have a problem with that ?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Back
Top