Winter 2007/2008 Route/Schedule Changes

[AirLUVer]

Well, by spring the business class upgrade should be completed on the 767-300ER's. Maybe that is where the frame will be coming from.

 

[Skymess]

That would be a big "YEP" SKYMESS. Actually, I am more irritated about losing my ride to work. Apparantly, I have been riding the J/S all summer for no reason. I am still curious where the 767's are coming for the Spring JFK- Stansted and the lease to AVP starting in JAN.

Where you riding from? I gotta make sure we aren't competing for the same jumpseat because starting in september I'm riding in from LAX and LGA and flying with you out of IOR. Let me know.

 

[eolesen]

Also 12-15, 2x daily ORD-PDX is CANCELLED. What the HE**?

Not too surprising. 2 flights a day in a market where UAL has 6 a day has to be a losing proposition.

Is PDX already outsourced on the ramp? If not, this might be the trigger to bring it below 2555 departures.

 

[IORFA]

oh, they outsourced the ramp last year when they went to 6 flights a day. 4 to DFW and 2 to ORD. They then stopped one Sat. flight to and from ORD on Sat. to be under 6 a day average. After they were gone, the schedule went back to 6 a day everyday. Now they are going to just 4 a day to DFW in DEC. If they aren't making money, then why are they full with oversales and my butt on the J/S? I know load doesn't make the indicator of profit, but if it is full and you are losing money, charge more!!! I will figure something out, I have to. It is still rediculous though.


SKYMESS,

I am living in PDX, thus I soon will no longer have a ride to work on AA.

 

[Kev3188]

I am living in PDX...

Also known as the best city in the world... 🙂

 

[IORFA]

YES it is!!! That is what made the commute worthwhile. Oh well.

 

[Skymess]

SKYMESS,

I am living in PDX, thus I soon will no longer have a ride to work on AA.

Hmm. If I had any reading comprehension skills I might have been able to deduce that on my own.
😳

 

[MiAAmi]

Effective 05NOV

CMH - MIA gets a second daily nonstop.

4641 dept CMH 1015a arrv MIA 1255p
4642 dept MIA 125p arrv CMH 405p

 

[AirLUVer]

from flyertalk - morning BOSLHR becomes 767 in December, also 66/67 ORDLHR will become 767 metal... assuming this is to allow faster conversion of 777 seats/IFE

 

[MAH4546]

from flyertalk - morning BOSLHR becomes 767 in December, also 66/67 ORDLHR will become 767 metal... assuming this is to allow faster conversion of 777 seats/IFE

It is also to test the waters. With a new lie-flat business product, AA won't need F on every Heathrow flight. If they were to stop using 777s on every Heathrow flight, which would give them immensely greater scheduling flexibility, they could increase 772 utilization by as much as 6 hours, and gain the equivalent of three new 777s for new service.

 

[MiAAmi]

It is also to test the waters. With a new lie-flat business product, AA won't need F on every Heathrow flight. If they were to stop using 777s on every Heathrow flight, which would give them immensely greater scheduling flexibility, they could increase 772 utilization by as much as 6 hours, and gain the equivalent of three new 777s for new service.

Are the 767-300 Biz class upgrades all going to be finished by Dec 2007?

 

[AirLUVer]

Are the 767-300 Biz class upgrades all going to be finished by Dec 2007?

I think as of the beginning of July they had around 23 to go.

 

[MAH4546]

Are the 767-300 Biz class upgrades all going to be finished by Dec 2007?

That's the plan. I'm pretty sure installation will be speeding up in the fall thanks to a slightly reduced 763 schedule.

On a side note, I got to try out the new seats for the first time this past Friday. It took for a complete surprise, because they substituted a 763 for a 757 on the 945AM Miami-LaGuardia flight this past Friday (this is the second time in a row I took this exact flight, and have had it subbed with a 763). A huge improvement over the previous product.

 

[eolesen]

It is also to test the waters. With a new lie-flat business product, AA won't need F on every Heathrow flight. If they were to stop using 777s on every Heathrow flight, which would give them immensely greater scheduling flexibility, they could increase 772 utilization by as much as 6 hours, and gain the equivalent of three new 777s for new service.

The daylights used to all be 763's at one point, and this also opens up some possibility for downgauging RDU-LHR to a 763. It operated on a DFW-LGW-RDU-LGW-DFW routing, but with the impending move of that route to LHR, there clearly other options for sourcing that equipment.

Personally, I think the days of the F cabin on the Atlantic are probably numbered. It's already the exception to the rule with most US carriers (CO, DL, and NW only offer two classes, don't know about US), and quite frankly, neither AA or UA come close to providing the level of service that you see on some of the other carriers who operate predominantly as long-haul carriers. AA's seen by a lot of people as a large domestic carrier who flies some international routes...

 

[nbmcg01]

The daylights used to all be 763's at one point, and this also opens up some possibility for downgauging RDU-LHR to a 763. It operated on a DFW-LGW-RDU-LGW-DFW routing, but with the impending move of that route to LHR, there clearly other options for sourcing that equipment.

Personally, I think the days of the F cabin on the Atlantic are probably numbered. It's already the exception to the rule with most US carriers (CO, DL, and NW only offer two classes, don't know about US), and quite frankly, neither AA or UA come close to providing the level of service that you see on some of the other carriers who operate predominantly as long-haul carriers. AA's seen by a lot of people as a large domestic carrier who flies some international routes...

"Ouch"