Winter 2006/07 Schedule Changes

[MAH4546]

They just dumped this route in April despite it always being close to full. Now they went from around 550 seats (including ORD) a day to less than 150 with 3 ORD bound RJ's. No change from before, still can't ever get on a flight.

Full or not, the DFW-PVD flight lost money. Simple as that.

Also...

Boston-Orlando is cut 13 December and I've been told that Boston-Manchester, UK and Boston-Paris may also be discontinued after this summer. The fact that they are not bookable for summer 07, even though other seasonal Europe routes like O'Hare-Glasgow have been bookable for over a month, supports this, but definitley does not confirm it.

 

[markkus757]

the failure in the PVD-DFW was a yield management issue - the 'excuse' they gave us was that too many people were booking the cheapie fares to west coast markets which drove down the overall yield of the flight. The local market fares were around $450.00 r/t and the market grew by 20+% after they added the nonstop. I can't imagine that AA couldn't capacity control the connecting traffic via DFW and funnel those folks via ORD (or not all)!

 

[AMFAMAN]

the failure in the PVD-DFW was a yield management issue -

You're forgetting that the route was competing with SWA's: DAL-HOU(reclaim bags-recheck bags)-MSY-BWI-PVD for $299 R/T and 14 hours of your time. 😛 😛

 

[formeraa]

the failure in the PVD-DFW was a yield management issue - the 'excuse' they gave us was that too many people were booking the cheapie fares to west coast markets which drove down the overall yield of the flight. The local market fares were around $450.00 r/t and the market grew by 20+% after they added the nonstop. I can't imagine that AA couldn't capacity control the connecting traffic via DFW and funnel those folks via ORD (or not all)!

I doubt that there is enough of a "local" market to justify a non-stop PVD-DFW. BTW, AA's yield management would give preference to a higher fare local passenger over and above a low fare connecting passenger. The yield management system of 10 years ago was set up for that and I'm sure that it's been enhanced since then.

 

[markkus757]

I doubt that there is enough of a "local" market to justify a non-stop PVD-DFW. BTW, AA's yield management would give preference to a higher fare local passenger over and above a low fare connecting passenger. The yield management system of 10 years ago was set up for that and I'm sure that it's been enhanced since then.

the first full year AA had the nonstop (2004), the market averaged 102 passengers per day, each way on an average one-way fare of $175.66. AA raised the average fare in 2005 to $192.80 and the demand went down to 83 passengers per day each way. Funny thing is, the daily revenue each way went DOWN about $1000.00 by AA raising the fare. This is the problem - they had room on the capacity side to leave the fare alone, carry the higher amount of local passengers, and actually get more daily revenue - instead they drove the fares up, the demand waned, and so did AA's revenue. Then people like you say "the market couldn't support it."

 

[MiAAmi]

I'm looking forward to the updates in Sabre this weekend to see what kind of changes we will see for the schedule this winter.



Press Release Source: American Airlines, Inc.


American Airlines Adds Larger Boeing 757 Aircraft On Its Austin, Texas - San Jose, Calif., Route
Thursday July 27, 11:06 am ET


FORT WORTH, Texas, July 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Responding to increased demand among its key corporate customers, American Airlines today said it will add 188-seat Boeing 757 aircraft to its service between Austin, Texas, and San Jose, Calif.
American currently flies three times a day between the two high-tech centers with its 136-seat MD-80 aircraft. Beginning Dec. 14, American will switch two of the three daily flights to the larger 757 aircraft, featuring 22 First Class seats and 166 Main Cabin seats on most aircraft.

"Demand on our Austin - San Jose route continues to be very strong," said Henry Joyner, American's Senior Vice President-Planning. "These larger aircraft will help us meet the increased demand and provide more opportunities to upgrade or purchase First Class seats."

American, a founding member of the global oneworld® Alliance, has flown between Austin and San Jose since 1992 -- nearly 14 years. Because of the large number of high-tech businesses in both cities, the flights quickly became popular with business travelers on both ends, who playfully nicknamed the flights "The Nerd Birds." Magazines and newspapers at the time picked up the story and the name stuck.

Regardless of what you choose to call it, there will soon be more seats and larger aircraft to accommodate all those who want to fly American Airlines nonstop between Austin and San Jose.

Here is the schedule of flights between Austin and San Jose - effective Dec. 14.



Austin to San Jose
Flight Aircraft Departs Arrives
579 Boeing 757 7:15 a.m. 8:55 a.m.
1023 Boeing 757 3:15 p.m. 4:55 p.m.
1703 MD80 7:00 p.m. 8:40 p.m.

San Jose to Austin
Flight Aircraft Departs Arrives
1810 Boeing 757 9:10 a.m. 2:31 p.m.
1172 MD80 12:10 p.m. 5:32 p.m.
502 Boeing 757 5:50 p.m. 11:05 p.m.

 

[MAH4546]

While we all know about the 777 going on MIA-LAX this fall, it is now being sold as 3-class service on AA's website. it was loaded as a 3-class, then put in as a 2-class, and now it is 3-class again. Good to see AA's AFS service on MIA-LAX, even if just for one flight.

 

[coolflyingfool]

I love the B757 on the SJC-AUS route. That should allow a lot of additional cargo. If there are not enought cheeks in the seats, the cargo will make up for it. just my thoughts......

 

[AirLUVer]

BOS SNN is going away. AA is going to now do ORD/DUB/SNN/ORD.

Press Release

 

[IORFA]

Is this going to be year round? Or just for the winter?

 

[AMFAMAN]

BOS SNN is going away. AA is going to now do ORD/DUB/SNN/ORD.

Press Release

Cities Departs Arrives

Chicago - Dublin 7:15 p.m. 8:35 a.m. (next day)

Dublin - Shannon 10:05 a.m. 10:50 a.m.

Shannon - Chicago 12:50 p.m. 3:05 p.m.

Wow, that really sucks for someone flying DUB-ORD with the 2 hour layover in SNN, especially considering Aer Lingus does it nonstop.

 

[IORFA]

I guess you would then have to say that it is better than not flying it at all. Same could be said for ORD pax going to SNN. But I agree, that it isn't that convenient. I hope the 757 goes on to do some MIA-S. America.

 

[MAH4546]

During the summer, the flights will likely operate as two seperate 763s, both non-stop, from O'Hare.

Boston-Shannon is gone, as is, apparently, Boston-Manchester and Boston-Paris. The ending of the latter to has not been made official by AA, but they are not bookable for next summer, even though all other summer trans-Atlantic routes are.

And Glasgow is gone soon. Will not operate in 2007.

 

[FA Mikey]

Looks like there will be no use of 757's over the Atlantic as previously had been in the plans.

 

[IORFA]

Mark,

Are you talking about ORD-GLA?