Winter 2006/07 Schedule Changes
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There are 1730 seats a day between MIA and DFW...
Assuming a 95% load factor, forgive me for finding it hard to believe that more than 10% of the customers flying between MIA and DFW are ultimately going to PHX.
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just as an FYI:
175 is the average number of daily passengers traveling from south Florida (MIA/FLL/PBI) and PHX on all carriers as reported by the major airlines to the DOT. MIA-DFW has nothing to do with except that SOME of the people on those flights ARE going to PHX. Some are on US/HP nonstop, some are on CO via IAH, some are on WN, etc, etc...
No, 175 is the average number of daily passengers traveling from MIA to PHX on all carriers. 548 is the average number of travelers traveling from MIA, FLL, and PBI to Phoenix. FLL has over nearly 300 daily O&D pax to PHX.
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MAH4546,
Save your breath !!
Just keep doing the GREAT job you do for us all, with the breaking news on schedule changes...Waaaaay in advance.
The reasom MAH4546, that I say save your breath is, look what the bean counters did in PVD.
We pushed like Holy HEL* for a PVD/MIA trip, and in their INFINITE WISDOM, they DAM near CLOSED the station, and turned PVD into A/E :down:
Some things at AA, WILL never change !
RIGHT "FM" ?????????
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Save your breath !!
Just keep doing the GREAT job you do for us all, with the breaking news on schedule changes...Waaaaay in advance.
The reasom MAH4546, that I say save your breath is, look what the bean counters did in PVD.
We pushed like Holy HEL* for a PVD/MIA trip, and in their INFINITE WISDOM, they DAM near CLOSED the station, and turned PVD into A/E :down:
Some things at AA, WILL never change !
RIGHT "FM" ?????????
NH/BB's
Miami-Cozumel, finally, resumes this winter. Daily ATR-72 pending DOT approval.
American Eagle is also planning on applying for Miami-Merida daily service in the near future, allowing AA to serve all three major Yucatan airports from MIA. This is not only a key route for tourism, but more than 80% of Miami's Mexican community comes from Merida.
American Eagle is also planning on applying for Miami-Merida daily service in the near future, allowing AA to serve all three major Yucatan airports from MIA. This is not only a key route for tourism, but more than 80% of Miami's Mexican community comes from Merida.
WOW a 2hr ride over the water in the ATR.Start drinking early or B.O.B
WOW a 2hr ride over the water in the ATR.Start drinking early or B.O.B
Won't be the longest ATR route, though, SJU-POS is. Yucatan and South Florida are very close. The most direct flight path almost always skims land. From MIA, skimming the Keys, then overwater to Cuba, skimming Cuba, and then reaching Cozumel quite quickly.
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sorry MAH - I thought you said that was the O&D from SoFLA...
I know that you know what I was talking about though...
Orlando-Nassau and Tampa-Nassau are gone after summer's end.
Executive is very closely investigating a significant expansion of MIA ATR routes (and its about time considering the fleet is not highly utilized). They are considering routes to Naples, Sarasota, Savannah, Pensacola, Cayman Brac, and Grand Turk. Naples is actually a go if local officials agree to fund start-up costs for two daily ATRs.
Ditto with Sarasota. It would be great to see those two routes return. They both ended in April 2001.
Executive is very closely investigating a significant expansion of MIA ATR routes (and its about time considering the fleet is not highly utilized). They are considering routes to Naples, Sarasota, Savannah, Pensacola, Cayman Brac, and Grand Turk. Naples is actually a go if local officials agree to fund start-up costs for two daily ATRs.
Ditto with Sarasota. It would be great to see those two routes return. They both ended in April 2001.
This thread is quite interesting. If AA had some newer, fuel efficient aircraft, some of these routes might make sense. While I like PVD, it's difficult making money going up against WN. Maybe a S80 replacement could help out. Or at least make a deal to get EMBRAER aircraft into the mainline fleet. The E190 looks very interesting with 8F/92Y configuration with a full size cabin, overhead bins, and wide seats.
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There is "merit" to your point about PVD/Chicago(WN),
BUT,
AA could have had a "choke hold" on PVD/DFW, and PVD/MIA.!!
There is a HUGE Latin population in the greater Providence area.
This population could have connected to the caribean islands, via Mia, and the Mexican population, and west coast USA, thru DFW !!
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I agree with you on the PVD/MIA route, although a couple of E190's would be perfect. The PVD/DFW route is a little trickier because you would get a lot of connecting traffic to western markets dominated (from the fare perspective) by Southwest. But, then again, one or two nonstops on a Super 80 could be revenue positive.
They just dumped this route in April despite it always being close to full. Now they went from around 550 seats (including ORD) a day to less than 150 with 3 ORD bound RJ's. No change from before, still can't ever get on a flight.
