US Pilots' Labor Thread 5/26 to 6/2-- NO PERSONAL COMMENTS

[Nicstolemyjob]

If your so-called "real issue" isn't in the trial record, then it's not going to be seen at the appellate level. Judge Wake made several calls as a matter of law that are certainly reviewable, but good luck trying to convince anyone outside of USAPA that a federal judge who was also a nationally eminent appellate attorney botched anything. And even if he did, that by itself doesn't amount to a reversible error.

The verdict will stand, you will be under LOA 93 ad infinitim, and remedies are coming. After that we tee up money damages. USAPA and the East pilots are about to become completely irrelevant.

Thanks for the opinion, counselor. yes, the real issue was flirted with and touched upon in the DFR case, but Wake was guiding the dialogue like a sheep-herder and quickly moved on. His haste in packing it up quickly for an appeal only helps USAPA. You seem uncharacteristically venomous aquagreen...."completely irrelevent"...hardly.

If I were you, I'd gather all your buddies out there and start attending church with a previously unseen fervor....it is your side that is and will be behind the eight-ball going forward.

 

[prechilill]

If I were you, I'd gather all your buddies out there and start attending church with a previously unseen fervor....it is your side that is and will be behind the eight-ball going forward.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


A little piggie heading for the slaughter house. My god, the delusional statements around here are breathtakingly inane!

 

[Nicstolemyjob]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


A little piggie heading for the slaughter house. My god, the delusional statements around here are breathtakingly inane!

Indeed.

I forgot, exactly when do we expect to see you in the left seat of a 76 in PHL?

 

[hp_fa]

HP,

As I have previously indicated, the real issue for the courts is not the Nicolau, or even this DFR suit. The real issue needs to be addressed at a higher court than a local district court anyway. The appeal to the 9th (or even Supreme court) is a more fitting venue for the real issue at hand. Do you have any idea what that issue is? I ask because your response to my post indicates to me that you are not seeing the much larger picture at hand.

Nic,

I agree with Aquagreen, but feel free to educate me even if it is via a PM. Unless an issue was raised at the trial court than an appellate court won't be reviewing it.

I am looking forward to reading the Appellant's Brief so that I can then see what error the appellant's attorneys allege and how they craft their Brief.

 

[Tiger 1050]

My god, the delusional statements around here are breathtakingly inane!

Yeah. You just gotta shake your head. I mean c'mon....

 

[Tiger 1050]

Nic,

I agree with Aquagreen, but feel free to educate me even if it is via a PM. Unless an issue was raised at the trial court than an appellate court won't be reviewing it.

I am looking forward to reading the Appellant's Brief so that I can then see what error the appellant's attorneys allege and how they craft their Brief.

I too eagerly await the brief. Sad thing is we are trying to soften the blow these guys are sure to experience but they refuse to hear it. And what sucks is they are gonna explode like they did when the nic came out. Probably with more force... One word man. Instability!

 

[Nicstolemyjob]

Nic,

I agree with Aquagreen, but feel free to educate me even if it is via a PM. Unless an issue was raised at the trial court than an appellate court won't be reviewing it.

I am looking forward to reading the Appellant's Brief so that I can then see what error the appellant's attorneys allege and how they craft their Brief.

Of course you agree with Aquagreen...(as your bias shows intermittantly, but always westerly by your own admission)

I'm not going to litigate this case on this chatboard, publicly, or via PM's. You may look forward to reviewing related documents as they are produced.

For the cheerleaders trying to "soften our blow": you don't even know what remedy will be announced...it may be status quo ante....in which case we start over. Save the rhetoric and premature celebrating until you know some facts. In any case, we have a long way to go yet...better pace yourselves.

 

[hp_fa]

OK.

 

[flybynite]

Mr. Tiger

Let's talk about shaking your head. You stated earlier about how much the costs were and you came up with something like 8 to 12 cents per seat mile prior to the merger as if the pilots had something to do with that.

Let me remind you that the reason for those figures is because the AWA F/As, rampers, and gate agents were the lowest paid in the industry. The AWA F/A's are still one of the lowest paid. The f/a's didn't have lead pay and right now have a sorry ass 1 for 4 rig.

While you trumpet AWA's profits such as they were.....they were on the backs of your flight attendants!!!!


How bloody dare you.

 

[prechilill]

Indeed.

I forgot, exactly when do we expect to see you in the left seat of a 76 in PHL?

Proof positive you have multiple screen names. That PHL comment was made a month before you even "showed up" around here.

 

[AWE_SHUCKS]

Proof positive you have multiple screen names. That PHL comment was made a month before you even "showed up" around here.

you don't need to register to read, only to post, so I, I mean he could have been reading for a month before I er I mean he registered.

 

[cleardirect]

Thanks for the opinion, counselor. yes, the real issue was flirted with and touched upon in the DFR case, but Wake was guiding the dialogue like a sheep-herder and quickly moved on. His haste in packing it up quickly for an appeal only helps USAPA. You seem uncharacteristically venomous aquagreen...."completely irrelevent"...hardly.

If I were you, I'd gather all your buddies out there and start attending church with a previously unseen fervor....it is your side that is and will be behind the eight-ball going forward.

WOW!!!!

Seham really does have some kind of hold over you guys.

The "real" issue is that Seham argued the wrong case. Maybe you can explain WHY the judge felt the need to "pack it up quickly"? usapa lost he knew they were going to appeal. I would not call waiting 6 weeks for a remedy quick.

But you keep believing Seham and the other leaders. Their record has been stellar so far.

 

[AWE_SHUCKS]

On Saturday, May 16, 2009, an Executive Session was held in Los Angeles to discuss the implementation of the remedy in the decision MEC 04-03-06 (Failure to Include Pilots on LTD as Full Participants in the US Airways Pilots’ Retirement Saving’s Plan (RSP)).

We ask for your patience in implementing this decision. We estimate that there are over 600 grievants, and the total distributions are in excess of $40 million.

Tracy Parrella
Grievance Committee Chairman

That's strange, shouldn't they be diverting east bound money to the west? I'm sure we owe it to them for something.

 

[Metroyet]

USAPA will soon be able to present the real issue going forward at the appellate level or higher.

Sure....and OJ is still looking for the real killers.

 

[luvthe9]

Chairman

That's strange, shouldn't they be diverting east bound money to the west? I'm sure we owe it to them for something.

How bout NO since there are only about 170 dues paying members!!! :angry: