IAM Thread for the week of 2/19-2/26

[redeye]

White Flag!!!! But Very Funny!

Thicken up the skin a bit!

Its called comic relief!

 

[GoldenRam94]

Thicken up the skin a bit!

Its called comic relief!

That's why I am laughing! Unfortunately when you read, you are not hearing my Butthead voice that I am making!

 

[pjirish317]

Does anybody have the number of locals each team has?

 

[Theo Corner]

pj and others...........
First off I'm not pointing at Bush as an individual but as the leader of an anti union
party. Randy, along with us, have had to endure 8 years of a goverment leaning to seperate
the middle class and the upper class. Although we have slipped, we have reasons, one of them
is not Randy. Surely you ,yourself, can't blame an individual (ie. Bush or Randy) but blame the
party not the person. Randy has fought admirably from day one. This ''new direction'' could go
negative. Change horses' not in the middle of a race....wait, patiently and we will see the true
leaders.
*seek the truth*

If the horse bows down after the starting gate opens, then yes, you may as well change horses. Randy has bowed down since he took control. Ken Theide was slightly better. Only slighty I say as he really allowed a lot of our problem children into the "leadership" roles of the IAM. Unfortunately, Canoli did not get rid of those uneffective people, he added more.

And since you do not like to change horses in mid race, can I assume you will be voting for the Republican nominee John McCain? He will keep us down and keep us in Iraq.

h34r:

 

[Tim Nelson]

If the horse bows down after the starting gate opens, then yes, you may as well change horses. Randy has bowed down since he took control. Ken Theide was slightly better. Only slighty I say as he really allowed a lot of our problem children into the "leadership" roles of the IAM. Unfortunately, Canoli did not get rid of those uneffective people, he added more.

And since you do not like to change horses in mid race, can I assume you will be voting for the Republican nominee John McCain? He will keep us down and keep us in Iraq.

h34r:

Canale's the old horse that has two broken legs. I still can't believe District Force telling us to 'kiss the pinky' of Al and the company so we can fight 5 years from now. And this whole idea about 'sidebar' negotiations is pathetic. First, Canale speaks for himself down in LAS without speaking to the negotiations team, now these sidebars. What the hell? No wonder why Canale got deals with management, we had mindless bobblehead$ on the negotiations team. THe newbies know better though.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[orioleman]

speaking of horses..

since the BOSS thinks he really is THE BOSS.. maybe someone should send him a copy of the godfather.

there's a good reference in there about a horse .. :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

 

[orioleman]

G.R

is that what we the membership pay the 100,000.00 dollar club to do. IS sit around on the computer mumbling like beavis

all day.. I'm sure your gate partners in PHL will enjoy your impressions in OCT....

 

[orioleman]

I see this thread has had over 5,000 views in 2 days.. that's better then the who's got the biggest C**ks over at the pilots thread

WAY TO GO our little CANALITES when you come over to play everyone tunes in.. SO come out come out what ever your desk

your under and Play.........

 

[freedom]

Sorry for not keeping you all up to date concerning PHX on goings , but lith is also a reliable PHX source and I‘m sure tim has his own people here . I can’t say how frequently you’ll be hearing from me in the future . I’ve been reading through the current IAM thread and the last one that was closed .As for what I’ve been told, Ron Roth was indeed suspended for a week for publishing a new “safety doctrine “ in the union bulletin boards that was set to take effect the day after the super bowl . I recall reading it and it struck me as very rational , you know drive the speed limits , work safe , etc … As to if he’s been reinstated with back pay and what not , I don’t know .I did hear the union had his back because everything in the safety message is also written in the GOM , so it was simply a reminder of company policy to all workers ..

 

[Tim Nelson]

Oman, you're a good man, thanks for all your help in CLT. CLT is awesome how it has come together.
Don't worry bout the dogs coming out, they will be out soon enough. According to District Force, negotiations will be staged as we should all kiss the pinky of Al & company. Our network of solidarity is 'tighter than two coats of paint'. You lurking out there Tinman? TNP!!! Take no prisoners!

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[Tim Nelson]

Sorry for not keeping you all up to date concerning PHX on goings , but lith is also a reliable PHX source and I‘m sure tim has his own people here . I can’t say how frequently you’ll be hearing from me in the future . I’ve been reading through the current IAM thread and the last one that was closed .As for what I’ve been told, Ron Roth was indeed suspended for a week for publishing a new “safety doctrine “ in the union bulletin boards that was set to take effect the day after the super bowl . I recall reading it and it struck me as very rational , you know drive the speed limits , work safe , etc … As to if he’s been reinstated with back pay and what not , I don’t know .I did hear the union had his back because everything in the safety message is also written in the GOM , so it was simply a reminder of company policy to all workers ..

I was glad to see he went back to work yesterday. We have our disagreements but he's on the negotiations team and that is 'sacred ground' as far as I'm concerned. We must have the backs of our negotiators if the company dispatches one. A foul against them would be a foul against all.
We can handle our internal union squabbles within the union through democracy but If any outside institution messes with our negotiators then they are cutting our sacred with profanities and worthy of reward. It's called respect.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[seekthetruth]

To Tim Nelson and PJ and all others,
Whether your in agreement with me or not, I read your posts and think now read mine and think.
Sometimes you have to make a deal with the devil, and that deal saved thousands of jobs and will position the members through airline consolidation. The alternative is to keep fighting the company and then everyone will be out of a job. District force may be right, see you all at wall mart if you want to shut things down at the negotiations table with the company. Your company needs a transition agreement and how many times do we have to keep saying this? Stop holding your company hostage because of renegade internet posters that put their political agenda ahead of your families. Sacrifice the 60 day rule and add on another 2 years of the contract because there is NO WAY Hemenway will allow anything other. Take what is offered and live to fight another day. There will only be 3 airlines by next year and all IAM members should be in better position to start making demands.


*seek the truth* ..in the words of one of the ''new direction slate'' puhllesse'

 

[redeye]

To Tim Nelson and PJ and all others,
Whether your in agreement with me or not, I read your posts and think now read mine and think.
Sometimes you have to make a deal with the devil, and that deal saved thousands of jobs and will position the members through airline consolidation. The alternative is to keep fighting the company and then everyone will be out of a job. District force may be right, see you all at wall mart if you want to shut things down at the negotiations table with the company. Your company needs a transition agreement and how many times do we have to keep saying this? Stop holding your company hostage because of renegade internet posters that put their political agenda ahead of your families. Sacrifice the 60 day rule and add on another 2 years of the contract because there is NO WAY Hemenway will allow anything other. Take what is offered and live to fight another day. There will only be 3 airlines by next year and all IAM members should be in better position to start making demands.


*seek the truth* ..in the words of one of the ''new direction slate'' puhllesse'

speak no truth,

Who are you preaching to? We all understand what you have to contend with.
But, you are the only elephant in this room. I am sure Al has told you in a very
stern way that you have to do something about this "renegade" network. The
company can no longer divide and conquer fleet service.
Al can see the solidarity and knows that this has never happened. They understand
that they must overcome this because the true negotiating is not happening
in sidebar. Al also knows that if he fails he will probably be replaced. Who will
Randy play golf with then? If you push their agenda, you are not friend. Take your
soap box somewhere else.

 

[perserverance]

Guys and Gals,
Ignore these people, they only join to disrupt the thread, the information.
I mean we have ''DF, LL, 141, and now Seek...Ignore them....It is all Canales' boys
coming out in the kitchen when the lights go out....cockroach's.

Thanks...move on.

 

[seekthetruth]

perserverance, redeye, and all


Ignore me all you want my posts are to the point and time will tell if they prove to
be sound. Believe me we need Randy more than he needs us. He can retire what can
we do, work. He'll still be a part of the IAM, they need him why are we so ignorant to deny
ourselves his experience and politcal pull.
*seek the truth*