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mweiss said:
To be truly accurate, we should be looking at the work world in more then two categories...
Well, yes, but I did say "for the purposes of this discussion" (as opposed to "being truly accurate") and I was trying to keep it simple. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I agree with your points. And I would put F/As in Category #3.
 
Hawk said:
I won’t disclose the company name but they recently announced the closing of their call center in VA later this year. 250+ employees in this economically depressed area will be out on the street as this company outsourced the jobs to India. These workers started out making $320 week plus monthly incentives that could average $500-1000 month for the top sellers. I am sure that these workers wished that they had union representation.

Don’t delude the readers of this board with your one-sided rhetoric.
HAWK,

You can kiss my &%#.

You don't know what call center I'm speaking of. They have just offered major incentives to their workers.

The draw back of having no unions is the prospect of having jobs outsourced to another country. You should know this well.

That is what's wrong with Corporate America, IMO. Our government does not do enough to incentivise corporations to keep work here at home.
 
pitguy said:
If they are calling the Mechanic and Related people at home then those employees are to be paid 4 hours pay at time and a half per the contract for each call they receive.
Get a grip!!!! This is totally false!!!! Just calling you at home does not entitle you to time and a half!!!!!! What contract are you reading??
 
Bear96 said:
Well, yes, but I did say "for the purposes of this discussion" (as opposed to "being truly accurate") and I was trying to keep it simple. :rolleyes:
:) Yeah, I know. But the reason I broke it out further is to focus on the pilots and mechanics. Those two jobs look more like the professional jobs than they look like, say, the guys putting tar on the roads. Why, then, is it unnecessary for other professionals to be unionized, but necessary for pilots and mechanics?
 
PITbull said:
The draw back of having no unions is the prospect of having jobs outsourced to another country.
In fact, even if they're members of CWA, the jobs can still be outsourced once the contracts are up for renewal.
 
PITbull said:
HAWK,

You can kiss my &%# Our government does not do enough to incentivise corporations to keep work here at home.
there you go again!!! the government needs to do more!!!!!!! GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! incentivise????????? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT????????? PITBULL, Your over the edge!!!!!!!!!!!!
MY trusty pic, especially for you!!!
 
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NeedForSpeedNFS said:
there you go again!!! the government needs to do more!!!!!!! GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! incentivise????????? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT????????? PITBULL, Your over the edge!!!!!!!!!!!!
MY trusty pic, especially for you!!!
If she is over the edge you are at the bottom of the abyss.

You better calm down before you stroke with all your caps screaming like a mad man because we still think you’re completely nuts regardless.
 
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Ok MrAeroMan I see you lurking ready for the attack like a mad dog :p
 
PITbull said:
Mr. AeroMan,

Its is all about standing for what you believe is "right". Many on here don't get that, and I don't believe you would have been able to keep your food down if you had to fight in the Civil war, or the American Revelution. Just an observation.

Just my oinion on those who "coward" to the mangement types who many believe "rule the day", dictate YOUR destiny, whereby, dictate the realities.
Pitbull,

It is about what you believe is "right" and for those that believe like that I say fine. What frosts my cookies is those that make that stance and then thumb their noses at those that have chosen a different path and succeeded.
All I'll say about your comment about me keeping my food down is since I was young my patriotism and love of country has always been above average. I was recognized for that love of country several times in my school days as well as in the military and still proudly display those awards. I've given to my country through military service as a "grunt" and don't regret a day of it. I've never asked for a thank you in return and I'm not about to start today. I've experienced more than you could ever imagine and I'm still here today by the grace of God. As a matter of fact I wish I could've done a lot more but due to injuries I received in service I cannot serve any longer. I'm reminded of them each day when I wake and each night when I sleep. Given the chance to go and do it all again I would jump at that chance in a New York minute even if I knew the outcome would be the same.
It's been said but I don't know by whom that if you're not scared in battle then you're crazy but I prefer these by General George Patton Jr.

"All men are timid on entering any fight. Whether it is the first or the last fight, all of us are timid. Cowards are those who let their timidity get the better of their manhood."
- General George Patton Jr, "War as I knew it" 1947

Courage is fear holding on a minute longer.
- General George Patton Jr


Happy Memorial Day!!!
 
cavalier said:
Ok MrAeroMan I see you lurking ready for the attack like a mad dog :p
Relax Cav...I'm not lurking on here anymore than you do so get over yourself already. If you want to talk about attack dogs we can surely go there but I'll leave it alone unless you choose to go there. I've said my piece to you and probably will again just as you will to me so until that time relax....it's a day of Memorial
 
Hey mwiess, hungry? here is some crow:

L.A. doctors unionize in historic victory


By Evelina Alarcon


LOS ANGELES - More than 800 Los Angeles County doctors made history last week by becoming the largest group of physicians in the country to unionize in 20 years.

In a whopping victory, nearly two-thirds of voting doctors cast their ballot for the union. This was a tremendous accomplishment in what has been considered one of the most difficult areas to organize.

"We are ecstatic about the results! " said Joe Bader, regional administrator for the Union of American Physicians and Dentists to the World. "This is the largest group of non residents to join the union ... these are doctors with academic appointments who are now identified with other workers."

Bader who helped lead the three year effort, pointed out that there has been a dramatic change in the attitude of doctors over the last 10 years.

"Doctors now see themselves as workers who can better serve their profession and their patients by being in a union!" said Bader. "This is the only way to get their voices heard!"

These doctors serve L.A.'s massive health care system, which provides service to nearly three million uninsured patients and runs the county's largest trauma centers.

In 1995, Los Angeles County laid off doctors for the first time and cutbacks in health care have continued ever since. Doctors have little input to the county on crucial issues regarding its health policies regarding patient care, lack of job security and deteriorating working conditions. This is what has spurred on the unionization drive.

During the organizing campaign, the county proposed to consolidate laboratory services and to allow the contracting out of physician services - decisions that were strongly opposed by the union.

"This is a great day not just for doctors but for patients!" said union president Dr. Robert Weinmann at a press conference held by the UAPD in front of County-University of Southern California Medical Center on May 28. "With union representation, doctors can now concentrate on health care and what's best for patients. Patients can rest easy. "

A key organizer in the union drive, Dan Lawlor, M.D., added another benefit of the victory by pointing out that this election "puts the union at the forefront of quality teaching and research - a vital factor in this nation's great medical tradition."

The doctors unionized include some 550 university teaching physicians and about 240 doctors working in the county's public health clinics, children's and AIDS services plus the sheriff's and coroner's offices. In addition to being employed by the County, these physicians work for the area 's three medical schools - UCLA, USC and Charles Drew.

The medical university teaching physicians are the largest group of its kind ever to vote on joining a physicians union.

This success is a huge milestone for labor who are battling privatization and cutbacks in health care. When added to the recent victory of over 80,000 home care workers in Los Angeles, the labor movement in the nation's largest County is making record breaking strides in organizing the e health care industry.

Bader predicted to the World that this victory would motivate doctors to join the union nationwide. Lawlor said that the "impetus is already spilling over into the East Coast where next month it will involve an election for 500 teaching physicians and scientists at the University of Connecticut in Hartford."

The physicians union is an affiliate of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME). This successful drive makes AFSCME the national leader in doctor unionization.

"Millions of Americans rely on public hospitals for high quality care, and they will greet this union vote as a great victory!" said AFSCME President Gerald McEntee.

"Los Angeles County residents now have powerful advocates for the right treatment, high quality treatment, in a timely manner."


More:

Medalia doctors unionize


by The Associated Press


Doctors at Medalia HealthCare have voted 104-75 to join the United Salaried Physicians and Dentists Union, the union announced yesterday.

"We need to have a voice in Medalia and how we take care of our patients," said Dr. Dag Vandermeer, a member of the Northwest Physicians Alliance organizing committee.

Unhappy over a lack of decision-making control, increasing patient loads and unstable salaries, doctors had requested a union election last December but met objections from Medalia, a network of clinics co-owned by the Providence and Franciscan health systems.

The doctors' vote places them in the USPD, an affiliate of the Service Employees International Union of 1 million members, including 600,000 health-care employees. The SEIU counts 15,000 salaried physicians as members.

Organizers claimed the election was a first for private physicians in the Northwest.

The election was conducted and votes were counted by the Seattle office of the National Labor Relations Board.

Medalia officials couldn't be reached for comment last night.

"This is part of a growing national trend," said Jeff Rugg, organizing director of the doctors union. "Physicians want to protect quality of care and the doctor-patient relationship. More and more doctors employed by large health-care corporations are turning to USPD."

A total of 229 ballots were sent to nonmanagement physicians at Medalia, a network of 46 primary-care clinics in Western Washington.

Some of the doctors had petitioned the NLRB in December for an election, but Medalia objected.

After six weeks of hearings, the board rejected Medalia's arguments that virtually all of its physicians are supervisors and managers - positions not covered by the National Labor Relations Act - and therefore could not be certified to join a union.

In recent months, many physicians and other staff have left Medalia out of frustration with administrative policies, the union said.

"Doctors are so frustrated by what managed-care plans are doing to them," said Tom Curry, head of the Washington State Medical Association. "I've never seen physicians so frustrated."

According to the American Medical Association in Chicago, there are already between 14,000 and 20,000 doctors represented by various unions - a tiny fraction of the 720,000 practicing physicians in the country.

"But it really is the trend," said Wendy Morphew, spokeswoman for the AMA.


http://www.ncpa.org/pi/health/pd062499b.html

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/jan-...tors_6-24a.html
 
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MrAeroMan said:
Relax Cav...I'm not lurking on here anymore than you do so get over yourself already. If you want to talk about attack dogs we can surely go there but I'll leave it alone unless you choose to go there. I've said my piece to you and probably will again just as you will to me so until that time relax....it's a day of Memorial
I have been relaxed since I realized my future doesn’t depend on U....

Yes, you have had your share.

I listened to my Father's war stories; he was on Iwo Jima and other places. I know what tough really is.

I live with woes everyday of my life knowing all about how tough life can be. I will always rally behind the little guy trying to eke out a simple existence.
 
700UW said:
L.A. doctors unionize in historic victory
Yup, I knew that was coming. The irony is that they're unionizing to fight against insurance companies that were formed as a result of medical insurance benefits brought about by...according to PITbull...unions! Ahh, that circle of life!
 
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