US Pilots Labor Discussion

[BoeingBoy]

I have no further questions your honor, the state rests its case.

It's long past the time that you should have been laid to rest (or sent back to lav duty) - blatent liars have no place in any discussions. That is definitely a title you've earned over and over. There's no doubt why your former co-workers think so little of you...sometimes Les is just less...

Jim

 

[sumadarson]

You are not the emperor of the board anymore, the west pilots any many others sense this but they are afraid to tell you.


Boeingboy

 

[BoeingBoy]

You are not the emperor of the board anymore, the west pilots any many others sense this but they are afraid to tell you.

Never was and never claimed to be. But then, I'm not a liar either. It must leave a bitter taste to be mostly ignored by East and West. To have been hired in 1999 - 12 years ago - and still be so close to the bottom (what is it, about 300 numbers away from the bottom - not much protection is another furlough comes along). To be faced with years of reserve (or E190 FO). Driving that lav truck must be looking pretty good by now...

Jim

 

[des nudo]

Never was and never claimed to be. But then, I'm not a liar either. It must leave a bitter taste to be mostly ignored by East and West. To have been hired in 1999 - 12 years ago - and still be so close to the bottom (what is it, about 300 numbers away from the bottom - not much protection is another furlough comes along). To be faced with years of reserve (or E190 FO). Driving that lav truck must be looking pretty good by now...

Jim

So many years...so many promises.

It truly saddens me to see a former airline pilot so captivated in his retirement by nothing but a hollow web-board. Is that all there is? I mean, really....is that it?

We do our term....and then we wind up here? Arguing #### that doesn't even touch our own lives? Really?

Wow

Jim, you have a #### life brother...and that's no joke.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Jim, you have a #### life brother...and that's no joke.

For some reason insults from Easties don't carry much weight with me - it means they can't make a logical argument so fall back on that old standby called "Attack".

Jim

 

[Freebird]

Dear USAPA,

Thanks for helping us run a safe airline and keeping your wages low.


USNews Now: IATA Operational Safety Audit Preliminary Results: An Important Message from COO Robert Isom

May 9, 2011

Dear Fellow Employee:

I wanted to share some great news with you today that is a further validation of all of your efforts to run one of the safest airlines in the business. We have received notice that preliminary results show that we scored very well on our recently completed 2011 International Air Transport Association (IATA) Operational Safety Audit (IOSA). This is no small feat, since more than 2,600 items related to safety are checked by independent inspectors. Final results will be announced in September.

Every two years, these international inspectors comb through our operation - covering Safety, Flight Operations, InFlight, Dispatch, Technical Operations, Security, Cargo and Airport Customer Service. IOSA has always been the gold standard for airline safety inspections, and our operation reflects that same gold standard. It is our fourth IOSA audit, which IATA conducts every two years. My thanks go out to all those from US Airways that were involved with the audit.

Our commitment to safety has never been higher. You may be familiar with our work involving the Safety Management System (SMS). We remain the only U.S. airline to have every operating group included in this company-wide program to identify, assess and mitigate risks to ensure an even safer airline. And now, we’re the only U.S. airline to have our SMS validated by IOSA – meeting not just FAA requirements, but international standards as well.

These efforts can be seen in the daily operation, where, for example, in April we experienced the lowest level of deferred maintenance items on the Minimum Equipment List (MEL) since the merger in 2005. Last month, we also saw the lowest monthly number of Non-essential Equipment and Furnishings (NEFs) on the maintenance list since the program began. This means we have more aircraft departing with fewer customer convenience items out of service than ever before – items like inoperable reading lights or other items that don’t pose a risk to flight safety. Since 2008, our hard work in these areas has meant that we have reduced maintenance-related cancellations by more than 32 percent, or 900 fewer flight cancellations.

You should be proud that we are consistently recognized for operating one of the best airlines in the U.S., and that is a direct reflection of every employee in the company. And now, international inspectors are recognizing what we see every day: That US Airways is a great airline with great people ensuring every flight is the safest possible. Thank you for running a safe, reliable airline AND for taking great care of our customers.

Robert


USAPA = Gold Standard. Not.

 

[cactusboy53]

You are obviously sliding Nic. Your scab comments are lies, and you continue to throw the lies again and again. You are starting to lose it.

Pot, meet Kettle. Luv, who did you say was going to be terminated again? Who was the chief pilot that told you that big trouble was on its way? Speakng of lies.......

Oh, BTW did you see the letter from COO Isom regarding the preliminary results of the IATA safety audit? A BIG gold star for LCC!! Isn't that great??

USAPA = Is that egg on my face, or am I just seein' yellow??

 

[cactusboy53]

Like I said, in the top 400 but I strongly support DOH and our junoirs guys, sorry never crossed a picket line like the "real" scabs you have at your airline, I can't believe your group would be stupid enought to send out another mailer!!!! You guys have to be the dumbest bunch of pilots in the industry, poor Dougie.

Hmmmm, let's chew on these statements for a moment:

1. "top 400": So you could hold captain on the A330 (presumably). According to the testimony given in the Addington trial (with the Kirby proposal + the estimated 7-8% necessary + whatever WB pay could have been with a new contract) you have chosen to support the personal loss of nearly 3/4 of one millon dollars over the remainder of your career here.

2. You claim the west has "real scabs" but conveniently forget that USAPA's spokesperson is on the CAL scab list & representative Crimi chose to work for Freedom (against MEC explicit instructions).

3. We are "stupid" for sending out truthful, factual, verifiable information about what lays ahead, and effective avenues toward a new contract with the seniority list that was accepted by the CEO of the airline.........or see # 1 & 2.

Sorry Luv, I doubt seriously that you are that senior here. Go peddle your story to someone else. The commercial aviation community knows exactly what you are trying to pull.

Have a great evening.

 

[Eastisleast]

So many years...so many promises.

It truly saddens me to see a former airline pilot so captivated in his retirement by nothing but a hollow web-board. Is that all there is? I mean, really....is that it?

We do our term....and then we wind up here? Arguing #### that doesn't even touch our own lives? Really?

Wow

Jim, you have a #### life brother...and that's no joke.

Hahahhaahhha....Des nudo, this is the guy that claimed his english "was not so good" glad to see those rosetta stone tapes working for you. You are a LIAR and have zero cred...you are the weakest link........good bye!!!

 

[luvn737s]

actually it's not due until the 31st.. unless you have a trip on the 1st and then it must be completed by 3 days prior.

Nope- wrong!

Has to be completed prior to checking in for a trip that reports or operates on or after 0000 lcl on the 25th, or you are removed from the trip without pay. (actually I think scheduling gets 4 hours to replace you, so it might be more like 2000 lcl on the 24th)

Need to know which end of the gun to point away from you before playing with one.


But please, don't listen to me.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Looking at those IATA membership qualifications, and that safety survey, sorta reminds me off inmates cotrolling the asylum! MM! What are the benefits?
IATA provides a powerful, unified and experienced voice which supports and promotes the interests of its members in a number of different ways including:

International recognition and lobbying
Targeting key industry priorities
Driving industry change
Reducing costs
Communication
Training and other services
INT.L RECOGNITION AND LOBBYING? REDUCING COSTS? MM!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

http://airportwatch.org.uk/news/detail.php?art_id=2308 IATA , just all about the money! MM!

 

[crazystnic]

Nope- wrong!

Has to be completed prior to checking in for a trip that reports or operates on or after 0000 lcl on the 25th, or you are removed from the trip without pay. (actually I think scheduling gets 4 hours to replace you, so it might be more like 2000 lcl on the 24th)

Need to know which end of the gun to point away from you before playing with one.


But please, don't listen to me.

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I wont listen to you.
directly from my CBS message...
remember separate ops, separate contracts.. Thank GOD!

In order to maintain your qualification to fly, this module must be completed by May 31, 2011. to operate a trip operating on June 01, 2011, you must complete the distance learning at least (3) three days prior to the origination of that trip so that your training records are updated accordingly. Reserves are reminded that this includes scheduled AVL days.


so I would say if you don't have a trip on JUNE 01, you can finish on May 31. per CBS

 

[BoeingBoy]

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I wont listen to you.
directly from my CBS message...

Maybe if you hadn't given a West pilot the answer from the East contract your answer wouldn't have been wrong in the first place. Apparently you momentarily forgot about the separate ops, separate contracts.

Of course, you even got the answer wrong for the East contract...
"you must complete the distance learning at least (3) three days prior to the origination of that trip so that your training records are updated accordingly."

Jim

 

[Pi brat]

Phoenix has absolutely no evidence that I am, was or have ever been furloughed. He posted the accusation in a longer post with a TWA fantasy career, then comes straight up and replies later that I am a furloughee.

No need to counter that claim. There is no way I can prove him wrong on an anonymous web board.

What I can do is draw a parallel between a person who walks across a picket line to take another's job, and usapa supporters who use their majority status to take another's job. No difference really. Job theft is job theft, usapa supporters are scabs.

Then you allowed Nic to pimp you out to be a scab? He put you guys in line to take east jobs. If you accept does that make you a scab? I don't think so. The term scab has always had a pretty clear meaning with most outside of west pilots. I disagree with it's use in this argument.