US Pilots Labor Discussion

[john john]

So the only "facts" in this mailer is that USAPA doesn't think the Nic. award was "FAIR"?

Guess What Scabs. You were never, and will never be, in a position to determine "fairness". It was never up to you to begin with. $e$ham is a gold digging liar.

Was the elect of a new union fair and what comes with it ?

 

[cactusboy53]

You are living in a delusional world... The company has no plans to give us anything... Your numbers are so flawed it's laughable. The POS Kirby is on the table and that is it. Stuff your moral legal and ethical bs. This will be resolved in court and even if a court rules against using the NIC I'm sure the fight will go on..... I'm sure we will fight to protect those that have been so harmed by the NIC

OK. We'll count that as one vote for: LA LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. STOMP, STOMP, STOMP. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME. I WILL LISTEN TO EVERYTHING CLEARY & MOWREY SAY BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY CAN NOT LIE. EVERYTHING THAT LEONIDAS PUTS OUT IS A LIE, THE NIC IS DEAD, IT'S NOT FAIR, NOBODY KNOW THE TROUBLE I'VE SEEN...... AKA THE ANGRY FO VOTE ... :angry2:

Crazy;
You have made your point (numerous times). It is my hope that there are 2-3 lurkers out there that have figured out that USAPA in its present form is a failed and VERY EXPENSIVE lesson. I hope that these 2-3 lurkers seek to help us reform USAPA into a union for ALL US Airways pilots (and not just the east pilots).

Have a great night.

 

[GorgeousGeorge]

OK. We'll count that as one vote for: LA LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. STOMP, STOMP, STOMP. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME. I WILL LISTEN TO EVERYTHING CLEARY & MOWREY SAY BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY CAN NOT LIE. EVERYTHING THAT LEONIDAS PUTS OUT IS A LIE, THE NIC IS DEAD, IT'S NOT FAIR, NOBODY KNOW THE TROUBLE I'VE SEEN...... AKA THE ANGRY FO VOTE ... :angry2:

Crazy;
You have made your point (numerous times). It is my hope that there are 2-3 lurkers out there that have figured out that USAPA in its present form is a failed and VERY EXPENSIVE lesson. I hope that these 2-3 lurkers seek to help us reform USAPA into a union for ALL US Airways pilots (and not just the east pilots).

Have a great night.

Or, you might have spent a lot a money to mail something that if anything, hardened peoples positions by the way in which their data was obtained. The mailing by your union probably countered those claims in a way that resonated with your counterparts. All the while several of your fellow aviators were exposed to administrative action from your company and it exposed the organization you have donated money to with potential financial/legal risk.

Doesn't sound like much of an accomplishment.

 

[fodase]

I don't know any clowns personally so I can't speak about them being "slow", but you, you make it obvious. Is prechil your sister?

I will take this to mean that as I thought , you cannot awswer why usapa uses an age chart instead of a seniority chart. The reason is simple usapa cannot refute leonidas numbers, so they make up a chart that shows Eric is younger than most eastholes. Nice try clowns

 

[crazystnic]

OK. We'll count that as one vote for: LA LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. STOMP, STOMP, STOMP. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME. I WILL LISTEN TO EVERYTHING CLEARY & MOWREY SAY BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY CAN NOT LIE. EVERYTHING THAT LEONIDAS PUTS OUT IS A LIE, THE NIC IS DEAD, IT'S NOT FAIR, NOBODY KNOW THE TROUBLE I'VE SEEN...... AKA THE ANGRY FO VOTE ... :angry2:

Crazy;
You have made your point (numerous times). It is my hope that there are 2-3 lurkers out there that have figured out that USAPA in its present form is a failed and VERY EXPENSIVE lesson. I hope that these 2-3 lurkers seek to help us reform USAPA into a union for ALL US Airways pilots (and not just the east pilots).

Have a great night.

You are missing the mark... this is not child's play... It's an out and out war... and will continue to be.. I was all about solutions but we are way beyond that...
I've not meet one person who is not absolutely focused on never having the NIC see the light of day.. It's not just F/O's...

so good luck searching for any fence sitters...

but I appreciate the good night.
we are all going to have to live with this disaster of a merger for many many years.

 

[KTM300]

Tell ya what, you tell me Eric's age and I will help you with the math needed to convert the graph to dates. Deal?

Here you go!

Eric Ferguson or Eric A Ferguson DOH: 11-17-2003 Retirement date: 12-1-2031 which makes his DOB in November 1971.

 

[prechilill]

Here you go!

Eric Ferguson or Eric A Ferguson DOH: 11-17-2003 Retirement date: 12-1-2031 which makes his DOB in November 1971.

How far did you get in school? Was it 12th grade in the N.C. public school system?
What is 1,971 + 65= ?

 

[prechilill]

Wrong again, but what's new? I have yet to see you right about anything so far. '86 DOH

You take care too, or as some of our women like to say down here "bless your heart".

Oh, I thought you were further behind me than you actually are. Heck, you might even be less than 500 numbers junior to me. My mistake!

 

[N924PS]

How far did you get in school? Was it 12th grade in the N.C. public school system?
What is 1,971 + 65= ?

They are big on the Three R's down there: "Racin', Rasslin', and Religion."

 

[KTM300]

How far did you get in school? Was it 12th grade in the N.C. public school system?
What is 1,971 + 65= ?

Excuse me. I used the age 60 chart. Obviously if he goes till age 65 his retirement date would be 12-1-2036. As far as where he would be at age 50, well.....with the Nic putting him in front of many that were hired 16 years before him, he would be approx. at 15% on the list. With a DOH list, around 35%. Without any merger, and without AWA going out of business, 45%. However, with the merger, DOH or Nic, he retires at the top( within a couple % points) on the 330!

 

[BoeingBoy]

and please don't give me your normal rhetoric.

Why not give you and your friends the same as you dish out?

Jim

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

What would be really interesting would be to see Colello's chart. What would Colello's chart look like compared to Nicolau and stand along. WITHOUT the merger. Let's see the west number one guys chart. Compare that to DOH and the Nicolau.

Trying to compare POST merger to PRE merger is a waste of time.

Better yet lets put a side by side DOH chart together, might be fun, and focus on classes hired the exact same day and see where there careers end up cmon clear d tell us! MM!, NIC NEVERGOINTOHAPPEN!

 

[cleardirect]

Better yet lets put a side by side DOH chart together, might be fun, and focus on classes hired the exact same day and see where there careers end up cmon clear d tell us! MM!, NIC NEVERGOINTOHAPPEN!

Feel free. It is about time you do a little work and prove your points. Let's see the graphs.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Feel free. It is about time you do a little work and prove your points. Let's see the graphs.

Oh yea thought you would use the " ole prove it" points something we all know to well out EAST! Actually a side by side DOH comparison with attrition alluded us! Maybe in your infinate wisdom you could show us the light! MM! NICNEVERHAPPEN!

 

[fodase]

Excuse me. I used the age 60 chart. Obviously if he goes till age 65 his retirement date would be 12-1-2036. As far as where he would be at age 50, well.....with the Nic putting him in front of many that were hired 16 years before him, he would be approx. at 15% on the list. With a DOH list, around 35%. Without any merger, and without AWA going out of business, 45%. However, with the merger, DOH or Nic, he retires at the top( within a couple % points) on the 330!

Here we go again, the clowns refuse to admit the airlines merged 6 years ago and act as if AWA still exists to do nothing but shrink. Stupid freakin clowns, showed up in 2005 with 1600 furloughs, ndestroyed the wests careers and their own yet look at it as a victory. Karma is a #### and you eastholes will eventually pay for what you have done.