luvthe9
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Damage control to the front please!!!!!
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Zone5
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Well, first of all, if you are a 75 pilot, you don't make the same money for the same number of credited hours, you make less. Secondly, if you can "work less" to reach the same number of credited hours, that's a good thing and I'm happy for you that your contract allows you to do so, really!
Tell me, when you get that canceled trip or dead head pay and credit, do you take the money and run or do you use it as an "excuse" to bag a few more hours than your block pays already? As I have already said, several times, if every West block holder backed off 2-3 hours a month, there would be no West pilots on furlough.
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I expected better from you, Preston. You have really changed over the last few years....I'm serious.
That Mr. McIlvenna has to compose a document with a title that he held years ago is stunning...how many? 3+....
You guys should just join Toastmaster's if you like speaking to large audiences...pretending to be a legal party to the company/union relationship has clearly clouded your thinking. I know, I know...you guys all have a "club" out there called AOL.
This self-absorption that the AOL is relevent has caused you all to become deluded. For you to think that the AOL is entitled to the database for USAirways pilots (East or West) has really gotten you in a wringer now.
You all have a really big problem now, not only can USAPA pound these guys, the company can...the FAA can, the TSA damn sure can...and the AZ Attorney General can.
Good luck with that. I know....write a letter to the company and threaten them...yeah, that'll work.
That Mr. McIlvenna has to compose a document with a title that he held years ago is stunning...how many? 3+....
You guys should just join Toastmaster's if you like speaking to large audiences...pretending to be a legal party to the company/union relationship has clearly clouded your thinking. I know, I know...you guys all have a "club" out there called AOL.
This self-absorption that the AOL is relevent has caused you all to become deluded. For you to think that the AOL is entitled to the database for USAirways pilots (East or West) has really gotten you in a wringer now.
You all have a really big problem now, not only can USAPA pound these guys, the company can...the FAA can, the TSA damn sure can...and the AZ Attorney General can.
Good luck with that. I know....write a letter to the company and threaten them...yeah, that'll work.
lynyrdskynyrd
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Well, sure it will. The legal representative for the pilot group has to challenge the company when they have allowed unauthorized access to FEDERALLY CONTROLLED DATA...especially when that UAUTHORIZED entity is a batch of employees at their own airline...oh, yeah....heads will roll for that. So, yes the company has already spent $$ to address this, think they're gonna let the guilty people slide?
Somebody will "pay" for this...with their jobs, at least. Thats just the company...think the TSA will let this slide? with security permanently at yellow? The FAA?
Are you nuts? This is way bigger than Cleary and Doogie...too many Federal agencies have fingers in this...not to mention the AG.
Notice I haven't event mentioned the civil aspects of this (SS#'s) That part is academic to the airline security aspects of this....the SS# is just the icing that will frost some people's career at USAirways.
Count on it.
luvthe9
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Take a look at post 11335 read about your idol Dan Cloud!!! it's not your fault you inherited it.
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Delusions of grandeur have reemerged in full force with this issue. Im sure this is the Obama administrations top priority issue. Eric Holder, Ray LaHood, Janet Napolitano and Gary Locke are probably hold up in a conference right now waiting for Kommandant Kleary to issue new marching orders to take down AOL. Why wait for the facts to come out when you can begin the Salem Witch Trials today?
Now pilots addresses are FEDERAL CONTROLLED DATA???
Lets see,,,your question was will the company let the guilty people slide....hhmmm...who was responsible for making the very costly mistake of stealling West block hours and transfering them east to avoid east furloughs at the West's expense? Did the company let that person slide??
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Yea! Who knew that Cleary was capable even further mis-steps in "union represtation".....oh wait...we did. Now where did I put those addresses for the Dept. of Labor??? You just can't fix STUPID, can you luv?
This is what I was wondering, on what grounds do you ask union reps to leave the union office? Further, on what grounds can you bar a rep from making a resolution at a meeting?
Stick a fork in em, the scab union is done.
luvthe9
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Oh no , it's all over for us we are all running for cover, we just don't know what to do, we are in so much trouble now.
Your funny.
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Suma,
Here's your udate. I just got off the phone with a "fair and balanced" reporter about today's events on planet Usapia.
I think he wants to talk with someone about the events that sent Darth Vader into obrit.
Any idea who he needs to speak with? :unsure:
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