US Pilots Labor Discussion

[N924PS]

Not if they are non-members.

I believe they must be represented as non-members, if they are paying their germane fees.

 

[luvthe9]

I'm sure you are very experienced in yanking your own gear ....with an attitude like that.

Now that's funny......:"My attitude", I think will have fun flying together someday, and as always the beer is on me.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Slplit up? No way, I am looking forward to saying "gear up" 9er.

I would be ironic if the East were left to it's own devices. The fleet would start to shrink almost immediately (no exception for the E190's without the transition agreement) and I would predict BK3 within a year as unit costs increased without the West and the traffic feed the West supplies ended.

Jim

 

[CactusPilot1]

Now that's funny......:"My attitude", I think will have fun flying together someday, and as always the beer is on me.

I knew there was a sense of humor in there somewhere, 9er. B)

You have a deal, you can buy the first round.

 

[luvthe9]

Completely false. The union must represent them also. Why do you think non-members have to pay a fee instead of dues?

You and luv are walking a straight line to another DFR if the union followed the actions either of you recommend.

Jim

Sorry Jimbo, no DFR here, I'm just a little line grunt voicing my personal opinion.

 

[luvthe9]

I knew there was a sense of humor in there somewhere, 9er. B)

You have a deal, you can buy the first round.

Deal!!!

 

[CactusPilot1]

I would be ironic if the East were left to it's own devices. The fleet would start to shrink almost immediately (no exception for the E190's without the transition agreement) and I would predict BK3 within a year as unit costs increased without the West and the traffic feed the West supplies ended.

Jim

Jim,

I think some "Legacy" employees have difficulty fitting in with the LCC business model which made SW and Airtran a success which is the future of this industry.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Deal!!!

Here's your online handshake.

After this is all over, we can exchange war stories.

 

[GorgeousGeorge]

I believe they must be represented as non-members, if they are paying their germane fees.

Contractual issues only.

 

[N924PS]

Contractual issues only.

Section 19. Investigation and Discipline.

 

[East Hole]

I would be ironic if the East were left to it's own devices. The fleet would start to shrink almost immediately (no exception for the E190's without the transition agreement) and I would predict BK3 within a year as unit costs increased without the West and the traffic feed the West supplies ended.

Jim

What about the 24% of the east routes that the west is flying now....

 

[GorgeousGeorge]

Section 19. Investigation and Discipline.

Depends on the infraction, if it goes beyond defense of their job, they are on their own. I doubt any criminal act would be considered germane. For example in non-members are involved in an accident or incident, I don't believe legal defense is provided for against FAA certificate action.

 

[700UW]

They get the same representation, as long as it is contained in the CBA.

 

[GorgeousGeorge]

They get the same representation, as long as it is contained in the CBA.

I don't know their CBA but I doubt it covers anything beyond defense of employment. Any additional legal needs and obligation beyond that almost invariably requires membership.

 

[traderjake]

Don't the Evil ones wear the Cactus Pilot badge backers?

No, they wear Union Pilot badge backers.

They fact that your enemy did something wrong doesn't make you right.