So no worries, usapa wanted separate ops forever and Doug is giving it to you. No problem then, enjoy your attrition and loa 93 till next merger.Btw want to guess what list is used next merger? There are only 3 choices. West, east, or nic. Either way you are going to lose.
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Doug will throw east or west under the bus, doesn't matter. All the while singing the " were neutral " banter. But behind our backs he is counting the dollars he is saving on having the pilots fight and laughing about it. And he will plead to the courts or to anyone that will listen that seniority is " for you guys to decide" and ultimately doesnt involve the company.
I know, i know, then yet there is that pesky little TA to deal with. Yes Usapa inherits all that ALPA left us with and I acknowledge all that. But herein lies the problem: it says the company will accept the results of binding arbitration BUT it doesnt say that it will be BINDING RATIFICATION. The east pilots short circuited the process by voting out ALPA. Usapa is left to rectify the current IMPASSE betweed the east and west pilots being careful not to DFR the West OR the East pilots. You see since the ratification process has been short circuited it is up to Usapa to figure a way out of this mess. Personally I think they are between a rock and a hard place, as are all of us and not going anywhere.
I agree 100%. Usapa will never get you a contract or doh. The best you can hope for is a 3 list merge next time.
I have already planned for the loss, years ago, even before the merger was announced. I started my own business in 1998. You should know better too, you cant depend on an airline. Look around you - just ask some of your coworkers that flew for Eastern, TWA and a multitude of other defunct airlines. You need to be proactive and make life what you want it to be.
Good luck, sincerely.
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What are you going to do when your in Section 6 negotiations and you reach an impasse and at the end of the 30 day cooling off period when the company imposes its own CBA?
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If the LOA93 pay dispute is won(not arguing whether it will be or it won"t), the fence will remain for many years. John Daly will win the Masters before we get another contract. No lawsuits can be won as the ripeness issue remains for years as well. Not much we can do until that decision comes. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
What the heck is up with that?
I has been almost a year since the arbitration was heard
Bigger News Flash, it's just your opinion, and who doesn't want better pay and working conditions, Oh I see that "Whoa is me I have to retire under 93", so the rest of you should step aside for 924Ps so the rest of his days are better here! You truly are a piece of work! MM! Your party plans are coming along great, we'll tell ya how it went! RETIREMENT HAPPENS, get over it!
Companies DJ must be completed = time
Possible appeal if matter not settled = time
Mediated contract negotiating sessions = time
Cooling off period = time
Company imposed CBA? Unlikely
Weather the Nic is implemented will be made moot by the amount of time that passes in the interim.
Possible appeal if matter not settled = time
Mediated contract negotiating sessions = time
Cooling off period = time
Company imposed CBA? Unlikely
Weather the Nic is implemented will be made moot by the amount of time that passes in the interim.
Think again, BTW what makes you think there won't be 4 lists used or a merger will be the next trigger, short sided thinking! MM!
NO just a fence form one group to the other group
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