US Pilots Labor Discussion

[snapthis]

Bring it on, Meathead.

Count on it.

See you in CLT.

 

[aquagreen73s]

Aqua,

How long has the ACARS dispute been going on? 5 yrs? It took them two days to change the logic to the company's benefit, and they have taken 5 yrs to change it back? c'mon.

That alone is proof of their breaking the status quo.

Mr. B, I don't disagree but that is still a minor dispute. The fact that grievances are piling up is something for the NMB and it's a stretch to get into federal court on a grievance backlog. All the judge is going to say is take it to the NMB. The bad faith violation under the RLA belongs before a federal judge, but we all know what the company is going to say then. They'll get the case transferred to Arizona, then help themselves to all the evidence bought and paid for by West pilots, feign innocence by saying it's all about seniority, that they're trying to be neutral, just give us a list and we don't care which list it is crap, and tie this whole mess up for several more years. That's where this is headed IMO. Retirements will resume in a year and a half, no one is going to lose their jobs, but we're set to grind along in our own status quo while Parker takes maximum advantage of our disagreement.

 

[sumadarson]

They'll get the case transferred to Arizona, then help themselves to all the evidence bought and paid for by West pilots.

You need more information, west pilots.

Well, what you could do is turn to your own west pilot website, you know the one you pay hundreds of dollars to get a badge backer. With all that money you west pilots spend, I am sure they will keep you updated on the Eric defense fund. Money well spent.

I would not bother them though, aol is busy sending out colorful brochures to line the bottom of the bird cages of the East Pilots. Those videos are awesome, unfortunately not legal and binding.

The latest update, your badge backing money put to good use.

 

[mrbreeze]

Mr. B, I don't disagree but that is still a minor dispute. The fact that grievances are piling up is something for the NMB and it's a stretch to get into federal court on a grievance backlog. All the judge is going to say is take it to the NMB. The bad faith violation under the RLA belongs before a federal judge, but we all know what the company is going to say then. They'll get the case transferred to Arizona, then help themselves to all the evidence bought and paid for by West pilots, feign innocence by saying it's all about seniority, that they're trying to be neutral, just give us a list and we don't care which list it is crap, and tie this whole mess up for several more years. That's where this is headed IMO. Retirements will resume in a year and a half, no one is going to lose their jobs, but we're set to grind along in our own status quo while Parker takes maximum advantage of our disagreement.

Aqua,
I agree...certainly the company is in the driver's seat.....it's unfortunate the the seniority dispute has given them that edge. So, this latest lawsuit is pushing the legal experts to decide if the company is stalling, or trying to avoid a DRF lawsuit.

As I have said for the last few years, this hole is just getting deeper and the company is the one thriving on it.

Whether you like what USAPA is doing or not, at least they are doing what they can to apply some pressure to dislodge the company from their comfy position and find some way to move things forward. I really would like to see you guys out West apply as much pressure as possible.....I can handle the name calling, etc. We just need to put our energies toward the same goal......get the company to move off their asses and take responsibility, regardless of the outcome.
breeze

 

[sumadarson]

what you signed, west pilots


west pilots, Caveat emptor

 

[sumadarson]

4 members, 53 guests, 3 anonymous users

Your thoughts please, gentlemen.

1. nic4us,
2. aquagreen73s,
3. exB717Flyer,
4. traderjake

 

[cactusboy53]

4 members, 53 guests, 3 anonymous users

Your thoughts please, gentlemen.

1. nic4us,
2. aquagreen73s,
3. exB717Flyer,
4. traderjake

That you have too much free time on your hands, an over active imagination, you listen to and believe everything that el presidente says to your detriment, are pretty mean spirited, and in all likelihood were one of the furloughed pilots that was forced to MDA.

You other kids think that's about right?

 

[sumadarson]

That you have too much free time on your hands, an over active imagination, you listen to and believe everything that el presidente says to your detriment, are pretty mean spirited, and in all likelihood were one of the furloughed pilots that was forced to MDA.

You other kids think that's about right?

Normally one has to go to your america west pilots lawyers office, to meet a person of you stature.

Of course it is hard to show up at your legal councils office, when you owe them close to a million dollars.

 

[sumadarson]

Next!

 

[cactusboy53]

Normally one has to go to your america west pilots lawyers office, to meet a person of you stature.

Of course it is hard to show up at your legal councils office, when you owe them close to a million dollars.

That really isn't a problem. Mike & Randy are two of the best fund raisers that the AWA pilot group has. Stooge.

 

[sumadarson]

That really isn't a problem. Mike & Randy are two of the best fund raisers that the AWA pilot group has. Stooge.

I said you owe your legal council one million dollars, you change the subject.

 

[nic4us]

Nic,
I can understand why you cling to that dream.....it's all you've got.....a winning lottery ticket and a pipe dream. As long as you guys will not admit that USAPA is moving on in their fight against this company, that is all you will ever have. You would never admit that USAPA is fighting to improve things in the West also...oh no, that is contrary to the lottery ticket belief. Good luck in cashing that ticket in, cause it is worthless.

After watching the PHX crew news I was hopeful that you guys were really putting some pressure on Doug to do something.....whether it was for the good of all, or not....and we apply pressure from the East to get Doug to "DO" something, so that we could move forward.

Whatever causes a change, I promise you that the lottery ticket is not involved.
breeze

It used to bother me when east posters would use the lottery ticket analogy, now it just bothers me that east posters are so clueless that they would use the lottery ticket analogy.

Let me ask a very straighforwad question. Why does usapa have to fight the company?

 

[luvn737s]

That you have too much free time on your hands, an over active imagination, you listen to and believe everything that el presidente says to your detriment, are pretty mean spirited, and in all likelihood were one of the furloughed pilots that was forced to MDA.

You other kids think that's about right?

I love the IGNORE feature. I wonder if I can get more than 100 people on it?

 

[sumadarson]

I love the IGNORE feature. I wonder if I can get more than 100 people on it?

You have surpassed your feeble goal already. You currently must have at least 1200 america west pilots on ignore the truth feature. I think you gentlemen set a record already, you do not have to wonder anymore.

 

[luvn737s]

It used to bother me when east posters would use the lottery ticket analogy, now it just bothers me that east posters are so clueless that they would use the lottery ticket analogy.

Let me ask a very straighforwad question. Why does usapa have to fight the company?

Breeze seems to be another Bi-Polar eastie who wants to be your buddy - on his terms alone! He'll meet you halfway (to the halfway point of halfway, of course)