nycbusdriver
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Don't know exactly, but it is WAY more than the current price. I think the strike price was north of $50.
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Don't know exactly, but it is WAY more than the current price. I think the strike price was north of $50.
exB717Flyer
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As you guys like to point out, there's not contract to vote on yet. Wait till they see the money and work rules they're missing out on. We simply won't know until we get to that point. If you're so sure you have the pulse of the workers why not just get us a CBA with the Nicolau list and we'll vote on it. Prove us wrong -- unless you're not so confident after all.
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Don't take my word for it - read the latest PHX update.
8 to 3.
I'm not gloating, I feel for the West pilot group and the frustration they must feel - but the West pilots need to read that letter and grasp the reality of 3500 vs 1700 under Alpa, Usapa or anyone else.
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Harper and Jacobs arguably made one mistake, and that was on the ripeness issue. It is worth noting that the 9th had seen this case prior to the final appeal, and at any of those times it could have questioned the issue of ripeness yet didn't, allowing the case to go forward and then get dismissed.
$eham so aggravated Judge Wake by December 2008 that he felt he had to withdraw as lead counsel and they brought Bringle in. Yet it was quite clear that Bringle was more of a name as lead counsel because $eham was clearly in charge during the trial. Granath has made errors in making overly long motions in front of both judges and had that recent problem with Judge Wake in open court. None of the PS team has done any of the above or anything even remotely like it.
As for fleecing, the only way we have any knowledge of $eham's billings is from the LM-2. That was very interesting and if you haven't yet seen it you should go examine it. You can find it on the Department of Labor's website.
hp_fa
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But that is not a vote of the membership...
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I wouldn't put my "walk tomorrow" shoes on quite yet - there's a long process to go yet.
Yeah, I've noticed how successful you've been "taking it back" so far. Molasses moves faster on a winter day in Nome...
Jim
I"m ready whenever the time comes.. I'm patient.... Best advice my Dad ex REal ever gave me.. Patience.... my boy he would say.
I've gone out during last furlough and started a very succesful business. It's been a great experience and something that has allowed me to live comfortably with LOA 93. Contemplated not coming back but did come back and typically fly 70-72 hours... so Jim, when the time comes I'm ready ....
and I'm disgusted by watching these EMB's taxi around... I'm angry so bring it on.. LIke I said.. It's a process. It will arrive in due time.
Yeah, I've noticed how successful you've been "taking it back" so far. Molasses moves faster on a winter day in Nome...
Jim
I"m ready whenever the time comes.. I'm patient.... Best advice my Dad ex REal ever gave me.. Patience.... my boy he would say.
I've gone out during last furlough and started a very succesful business. It's been a great experience and something that has allowed me to live comfortably with LOA 93. Contemplated not coming back but did come back and typically fly 70-72 hours... so Jim, when the time comes I'm ready ....
and I'm disgusted by watching these EMB's taxi around... I'm angry so bring it on.. LIke I said.. It's a process. It will arrive in due time.
Freighterguynow
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Yes it is.
I've tried in vain for a long time to get this RICO suit dropped. The BPR reflects the desire of the majority ...
I've tried in vain for a long time to get this RICO suit dropped. The BPR reflects the desire of the majority ...
CallawayGolf
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Which speaks volumes as to the moral character and mental faculties of the majority. They seem to be the only ones who find hope in pursuing futile endeavors.
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What has Seham won "on a continual basis"? A delay from the 9th and I guess you could say that USAPA's victory was Seham's doing, but what else? RICO suit - Nope. District Court - Nope. I didn't see where anyone said he was involved in the "Suzie" arbitration. It seems that Seham has been spanked as often as the other side. So give us a list of those "continual" victories.
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How does the BPR know what the majority of pilots want? Has there been a vote by the pilots on the RICO suit?
So how does it feel to be in the minority trying to stop something that you know is wrong? But the east pilots keep going down the wrong path?
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The massive victory was the Addington. Vaporized. Clean Slate.(from Wake himself) And the priceless one was where we all got to see how Jacobs took the Army of Sparta to San Francisco on some strange mission of damage that wasn't yet damage.(and took over a million to make that point abundantly clear) So you say getting an opponent to spend a million dollars and upwards for no gain wasn't a huge victory in itself?And the result of that brought a clear and present dissertation of how the Nic did not have to be in any agreement going forward( a point you and the west continue to deny, even though it is right in your faces) Thank you 9th! And now Judge Silver is abundantly clear that if she transgresses into the murky dealings of the Nic, she too will get remanded. That isn't a victory? The boundaries could not now be clearer. We can thank Jacobs and Leonidas for providing the paint where the lines were marked. There is no doubt going forward. Judge Silver is going to have to play the game right in the boundaries. If not? Then the 9th is lurking in the shadows. I guarantee she does not want to play the same game Wake did. We all know where that went.This is RLA material friends. Not Arizona frontier law. Play by the Federal guidelines or pay the price that Wake did.
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Um, not quite. I know many east supporters like to think so, but in order to put a TA out for a vote, you first need to negotiate a contract. That has not happened because USAPA is stalling and stuck on avoiding binding arbitration at all cost. And part of that process is poling the pilot population to see what areas of the contract are important, to what degree, etc. This is all information USAPA doesn't want because it might just show a lack of support for their current direction.
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Lots of venom to sift through in that post in order to separate the fact (or lack thereof) from the opinion.
Many of those parts can be redirected to USAPA. Things like "re-educated," and "until you guys start getting it," and getting "funnier by the minute," and people "shaking their heads about what you guys continue to believe" are all mutual feelings held by those who oppose USAPA and their supporters.
One could also just as easily say that there will never be a DOH contract. But I guess we have to see what transpires in the court, won't we?
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