electricjet98
Senior
The east is refusing to think for themselves. It is far more palatable to have USAPA remain with the veil of deception and half truth's. Ya know... Spoon feed me!!!!
And will also prove to be far more expensive!
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The east is refusing to think for themselves. It is far more palatable to have USAPA remain with the veil of deception and half truth's. Ya know... Spoon feed me!!!!
NO.
With passage of age 65 the group that voted ALPA out ( and that's what it was, a vote against ALPA not for USAPA) will be largely intact. The top 500 of the seniority list, unaffected by NIC, was the largest push for a change.
Ejet...The knuckle-dragging spokesmen of USAPA that reside here would be loathe to admit it, but "buyer's remorse" is no doubt setting in for that senior east group.
Ejet...
With all due respect, perhaps you should heed Edwards first post on this thread..."If you make it about each other personal attacks, name calling etc you ARE getting time off with no other warning. So think before you post . "
and just what "group" would that be???Gee...you're in that group? I had no idea! :wub:
companies can take away alot of things away from you with or without a union and a company can take away from you your pension your pay etc... and while they have done this .. thats one thing of course its legal raping of hard working people in this country and the folks who come up with this are not suffering financial burdens because they have the golden parachute and turn around and say... what is this with entitlement... well guess what . they can take away everything they can but the one thing they cannot take is our DOH... because when it is said and done its all we have left.. you folks work it amoung yourselves. been doing this for over 30years... in customer service... believe the DL/NW want this thing done before Bush leaves and figure the senority issue later. the DL f/a s are worried and at one time the NW f/a s were teamsters they are a big time union and senority is big time for them for the abritator to say oh yeah i feel this way... man.... no airline merger would have ever gone thru if this person had presented this prior to merger. blame the original merger plans of US/UA in the ninties because UA pilots were less senior than US and did not want this to go through and changed bylaws for the same things reasons the HP crews did not want... but you know CWA representing original US ground personnel no question said DOH. with the HP ground folks with average 5 years aganist original US with 20-45 years hey you do your time ... we ve all been there. take cockpit crews you are the best .. now can we all be friends... btw the HP ground got raises to those of US folks some say well we were talking to a union but you would not have gotten the pay raise if it wasnt for the merger... take care all..Sorry. I do not recall that thread. Please elaborate.
That same group, stung by the cancelation of their pension, was treated as golden under the NIC. Now they are looking at USAPA and wondering just where they went wrong. A limited number of years to rebuild the nestegg that was lost earlier, now they find themselves sacrificing the most for the "angry fo club", and no parity or contract with improvements in sight. The knuckle-dragging spokesmen of USAPA that reside here would be loathe to admit it, but "buyer's remorse" is no doubt setting in for that senior east group.
You have no idea how the "golden" group feels about USAPA. I, on the other hand, being one of that group and in the crew room with them all the time in PHL, know that you are dead wrong in your assumption. The top of the list, be it Nic or DOH, is still very much in support of USAPA.
Why not come down to the A-West crew room in PHL and spout some of your crap and see just how the "golden" group reacts to you BS?
The context of your post is in your head and shared by none. To quote you sir,
""My question is based on the fact that the USAPA victory was by just a few hundred votes (approx 250)""
Your "recent report" is conjecture on your part.
It is obvious you are a alpa cheerleader.
Please review the history of your posts, your condescending tone is obvious.
USAPA was voted in by closer to 500 votes. NMB election reports, click here.
Your "recent reports" statement should be backed up by facts. There have been recent reports of Elvis sightings.
"I am not now nor have I ever been represented by ALPA. I am not now nor have I ever been a pilot. I am not now nor have I ever been an employee of either AWA or USAirways.
I am an active member of labor."
Thirdseater,
Your handle lends toward the assumption you are a FE.
If not you, would your spouse happen to be an FE. Just guessing at agendas.
FA