U.S. Pilot Labor Thread 8/3 - 8/10

[Elevation]

No. Whats the point? Morons exist on both sides of the Mississippi.

Speaking of him, did he get muzzled for a few days?

 

[sharktooth]

Anybody from USAPA want to clarify this statement to the rest of the 30,000 hard working USAirways employees?

Would it be too much trouble for you to actually include where you got that information?

 

[AAA73Pilot]

After reading many of his posts, it is my opinion that the writing style and opinions of NLC are clearly those of a much younger man. Either that, or they are those of the strangest 60 year old Naval Air combat vet I'm aware of.

He's a fake, Jimbo. No straw man, just an opinion.

I've got to agree with your observations.

 

[NiceLandingCaptain]

Interesting post, Jim. While you seized on the percentile reference in EastUS' post, it was really just a rhetorical device, and not at the core of his argument. You are certainly right, though, that either something happened or it didn't.

One would have to start with the proposition that NLC, who recently answered a question about this issue with, "USAPA SUX GAS FROM PARKER'S ASS," is 60 years old. That would make him 24 in 1972, the last opportunity for such claimed derring do to have taken place. He had to have finished college, earned his wings, completed Replacement Air Group training, reported to a squadron and begun flying missions by that age. On the young side, but certainly possible. As far as any combat ops in prior years, no way. In any case, Kitty Hawk was not on station in 1971.

Kitty Hawk's last combat cruise ended with Linebacker II in December '72. By that time, American combat operations had wound down to the point that in calendar year 1972, deaths among US forces averaged less than 2 per day. Yet this 24 year old nugget aviator and his "compadres" saved hundreds of troops from death on multiple occasions? Don't think so.

After reading many of his posts, it is my opinion that the writing style and opinions of NLC are clearly those of a much younger man. Either that, or they are those of the strangest 60 year old Naval Air combat vet I'm aware of.

He's a fake, Jimbo. No straw man, just an opinion.

You may need to go back to school on your forensic writing evaluations, my friend. Anyhow, thanks for the compliment.

But your math is pretty close, so you get good grades there. And back in those days, wings, RAG, and fleet came pretty fast. P-cola was really churnin' out the Ensign airdales.

Regarding the statement about deaths amongst US forces during that time period; if only a few combat fatalities were ocurring, the troops were "not getting killed." Right? Those were my words. Try playing fair by not putting words into my mouth like: "saved hundreds of troops from death on multiple occasions." And try using the exact quote about usapa and how they suck next time, thank you. I did not write those exact words you've attributed to me, and you know it.

Youz guyz really try to turn things around sometimes - its pretty easy to catch you at it too.

Say, what's this rumor about that the usaps plan on spending a bunch more of your money by trying that lawsuit thing again? How much stupidity is that "brain trust" capable of anyhow.

 

[banshee74]

The more I see from this NLC, the more questions I have. USNA 74

 

[nostradamus]

You may need to go back to school on your forensic writing evaluations, my friend. Anyhow, thanks for the compliment.

But your math is pretty close, so you get good grades there. And back in those days, wings, RAG, and fleet came pretty fast. P-cola was really churnin' out the Ensign airdales.

Your post above seems to contradict the one below. Please explain.

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QUOTE (EastUS @ Jan 19 2008, 03:47 PM) *
Imagine being the "captain" in a crew where the "first officer" has three plus times your flight time, and likely more prior years flown as captain.


Hey East - who cares about that? This US Airways outfit is a whole new company formed by the union of two different companies. Two seperate, entirely different seniority lists will be melded to form one - using the Nicalau formula. When I was younger, my F/O's often times had more flight hours than I, simply because they were retired military, and I was, well, young. It was never an issue.

 

[N924PS]

Watching the Super Sleuths of the East in action is way more entertaining than a CSI Mami Marathon on A&E!

They've got you now NLC, you'll not wriggle out of this tightly spun web, or should I say web board..... stay tuned for the next episode!

 

[nostradamus]

Watching the Super Sleuths of the East in action is way more entertaining than a CSI Mami Marathon on A&E!

They've got you now NLC, you'll not wriggle out of this tightly spun web, or should I say web board..... stay tuned for the next episode!

This situation does not require a sleuth, a sloth could figure it out.

 

[Megasnoop]

The more I see from this NLC, the more questions I have. USNA 74

Banshee and Darien, you're right, this NLC's a composite fraud. Based on his own resume', if he's an FO out West, he's pushing 60 or over. But the seniority list with retirements and seat position our MEC put out 3 years ago, no such FO exists. He's got the buzz-words down and knows something about Naval Aviation, he probably went to flight school, but the numbers/years don't add up. He's so lame.

My brother was a CNABTRA staffer in his navy career, told me that back in 1970 they were RIFing SNAs, not churning them out. They had a 10-12 month pool they called VT-0 before you started Saufley. NLC's story doesn't add up.

Snoop, USCGA (& nasal radiator, long after the Viet Nam war)

Watching the Super Sleuths of the East in action is way more entertaining than a CSI Mami Marathon on A&E!

They've got you now NLC, you'll not wriggle out of this tightly spun web, or should I say web board..... stay tuned for the next episode!

Sorry, N924PS, but if he puts out BS, we're call him on it.

 

[NiceLandingCaptain]

Well, this kangaroo tribunal has gone on long enough. You boys on the east are quite the lot - some of you got pretty close, others need to try harder. It was fun playing with you, but, on this subject, at least, I'm cashing out. We all know this will go nowhere until government issued documentation appears here in cyberspace. I know you're all dying to ask for that, but not dumb enough to do so, so it ain't gonna happen.

Time to take my chips and head over to the cashier window.

You dudes can play amongst yourselves.

Oh, don't let that JCL ring knocker annoy you too much.

And don't worry, the "fire for effect" barrages I know are coming won't even ruffle my feathers.

By the way - remember that 20 minutes of fuel? It was usually good for three trips around the pattern - not as much "pucker" as you'd think. Unless you bolter three times........

 

[dariencc]

Regarding the statement about deaths amongst US forces during that time period; if only a few combat fatalities were ocurring, the troops were "not getting killed." Right? Those were my words. Try playing fair by not putting words into my mouth like: "saved hundreds of troops from death on multiple occasions."

Ok, here's your actual words on the subject: And I didn't directly get a couple hundred pax to wherever they were headed with my gray jet, but there were times when hundreds of troops on the ground maybe didn't get killed because myself and my compadres did our jobs effectively.

Bull**** alert! Bull**** alert!

And try using the exact quote about usapa and how they suck next time, thank you. I did not write those exact words you've attributed to me, and you know it.

Ok, here's the quote,and it looks like I was close enough for government work:
USAPA SUX GAS FROM PARKER'S (rhymes with gas)!!!!
Instead of ass, you changed it to "rhymes with gas." How sweet.

Youz guyz really try to turn things around sometimes - its pretty easy to catch you at it too.

I hate to say it, but I find myself starting to feel sorry for you. This is as strange as it gets.

 

[dariencc]

Watching the Super Sleuths of the East in action is way more entertaining than a CSI Mami Marathon on A&E!

They've got you now NLC, you'll not wriggle out of this tightly spun web, or should I say web board..... stay tuned for the next episode!

And the non veteran chimes in with moral support for the fake war hero. I guess you'll never understand why some people would be so turned off by such an obvious fraud. I'm sure it was an inadvertent oversight, but I noticed your post forgot to thank NiceLandingCaptain for his service.

The USAPA fence that is going to lock you out of a SAN-PHX commute for the rest of your career is really driving you up the wall, isn't it?

 

[dariencc]

My brother was a CNABTRA staffer in his navy career, told me that back in 1970 they were RIFing SNAs, not churning them out. They had a 10-12 month pool they called VT-0 before you started Saufley. NLC's story doesn't add up.

Snoop, USCGA (& nasal radiator, long after the Viet Nam war)

I went through the program in the '77, and now that you mention it, I remember hearing about the VT-0 pool from some of the instructors. They loved it! Most of the duties they were given in the pool were a joke. They got to kill the better part of a year working on their tans and playing golf before starting Primary.

Game. Set. Match. Thanks, Snoop. Your brother has provided proof positive that this loser was nowhere near a combat zone in 1972, unless you count Trader John's.

There is actually an organization that investigates and debunks fake "war heroes." Amazingly, there are hundreds of them. You are talking about a very disturbed bunch of folks.

USCGA. The Guardians. Great flick! You guys have a beautiful campus.

 

[N924PS]

The USAPA fence that is going to lock you out of a SAN-PHX commute for the rest of your career is really driving you up the wall, isn't it?

Not really. What's another five years after nearly 20 years of transcon commuting?

Hope your commute is going well and that you have not been denied the jumpseat by any West pilots.

I wish NLC would set all of this straight, though. Unless he does, I can only presume your assessment is accurate.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

The fact is that no clocks were cleaned, you are only giving your bogus opinion.

"Judge Reidinger wrote in his judgment issued July 14: “It may well be that a court of appropriate jurisdiction will conclude that such actions do constitute violations of state law."

Criminal laws were violated by AWAPPA, just pointing out that fact.

Charlotte Business Journal article, click here

I said bogus rico suit, why don't you cut and paste that part of the judges ruling? I wasn't talking about the rest of the kitchen sink you guys threw into that hodge podge, that is the part you reference.