Summer 2007 timetable changes

[jimntx]

Looks like the 757's will not be replaced with 80's after all :unsure: .

Well, even though those flights are always full, it would be incorrect to say that they always make money. Remember, we are competing with a lot of other airlines for that business. When I land in Las Vegas, I am always surprised by the a/c that are at the terminal from airlines that I have never heard of, and I have been on every continent except Antarctica.

Besides, we have no choice. The company decided that they were going to get rid of the 752s, and the fact that we have no replacement a/c for them is of no concern to the company. The important thing is to get rid of the 752s. Just another daily reminder of the TWA fiasco.

 

[FWAAA]

Besides, we have no choice. The company decided that they were going to get rid of the 752s, and the fact that we have no replacement a/c for them is of no concern to the company. The important thing is to get rid of the 752s. Just another daily reminder of the TWA fiasco.

Where would you be if AA hadn't leased those ex-TWA 752s (and all the other ex-TWA aircraft) for the last six years? Without all those airplanes for the nAAtives to fly, perhaps your furlough might continue to this day, no?

AA said it would save $50 million a year in lease payments by dumping them - that's $219,000/mo each for a subfleet of 19 incompatible airplanes.

I applaud AA for making the tough choices - like this one. If the flying were profitable, AA would have kept the airplanes.

 

[jimntx]

I applaud AA for making the tough choices - like this one. If the flying were profitable, AA would have kept the airplanes.

Are you sure about that? There used to be 5 full, money-making, non-stop 75s/day, STL-PHX. AA has eliminated every single one of them, forcing people to go through DFW or ORD--they didn't even replace them with S80s. The pax decided to go non-stop on SW instead. Or, make connections on other airlines in smaller, less frantic airports than DFW and ORD.

 

[eolesen]

Correction, Jim. There used to be five full nonstop 757's per day.

Don't assume they were money making.

 

[jimntx]

Correction, Jim. There used to be five full nonstop 757's per day.

Don't assume they were money making.

I got my information from someone who knew for a fact that they were money-makers. But then, that can't possibly be true now can it????? That would imply that AA didn't make the absolute best possible business decision in every single case, right?

 

[kirkpatrick]

I applaud AA for making the tough choices - like this one. If the flying were profitable, AA would have kept the airplanes.

Everyone's talking as if the decision to "dump" the TWA 757's were a recent one. It isn't. Before 9/11 AA announced that the TWA 757's would be retained until the leases ran out.

Incompatible subfleets generally aren't a good idea, but sometimes it works.

MK

 

[FWAAA]

Everyone's talking as if the decision to "dump" the TWA 757's were a recent one. It isn't. Before 9/11 AA announced that the TWA 757's would be retained until the leases ran out.

Incompatible subfleets generally aren't a good idea, but sometimes it works.

MK

True. The plan all along was to replace these airplanes with new Boeings. AA's pre-Sepetmber 11 plan was to replace these 757s with brand new 757s or 738s. September 11 intervened and AA never placed the order for their replacements.

I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think that AA extended these 752 leases when it became apparent that the new orders would not be placed.

AA did order nine new 763s immediately after the asset transaction to replace the TWA 763s, and they were delivered in 2003.

 

[FA Mikey]

American Eagle adds KC-Raleigh/Durham service offering four daily nonstop flights between Kansas City and Raleigh/Durham, N.C., starting May 1 using 37-seat and 44-seat Embraer jets.

 

[MiAAmi]

American Eagle adds KC-Raleigh/Durham service offering four daily nonstop flights between Kansas City and Raleigh/Durham, N.C., starting May 1 using 37-seat and 44-seat Embraer jets.

I think the actual number of flights to MCI from RDU is 2.

Also RDU-SDF and RDU-JAX will be added with 2 nonstops each on eagle

 

[BuffaloJoe]

I think the actual number of flights to MCI from RDU is 2.

Also RDU-SDF and RDU-JAX will be added with 2 nonstops each on eagle

These routes are to compete with Express Jet new service. If they didn't announce flights to those cities, do you think AA would have done that? Now watch WN come in with the routes, although I believe they tried RDU-MCI a few years ago.

 

[MiAAmi]

CMH loses another flight to BOS this summer. Down to just one a day. I guess with all the recent eagle additions in NY and RDU the jets have to come from somewhere.

 

[MAH4546]

Dulles-O'Hare ends 1 June 2007 and Boston-Newark ends 1 April 2007.

 

[eolesen]

ORD-IAD has come and gone a couple times. Do the CMH pulldowns coincide with Skybus's startup?

 

[MAH4546]

It's been a while, but the summer schedule is still being tweaked.

Miami-Montevideo will operate this summer, 3x weekly, between 02Jul07 and 10Sep07.

 

[MiAAmi]

JUN 15 the 3rd CMH-MIA non-stop on SAT and SUNs is axed.