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I appreciate your candor Raptor. The reason I asked about your seniority is becasue it seems that where AMFA has taken over representation the guys with the most seniority don't have to worry about much as far a job protection goes. I don't have 18 yrs. I dont have 10 yrs. What is it that AMFA gripes about, concessions for jobs? They don't trust the company, they don't trust TWU leaders, international or local. I guess AMFA is squeaky clean?? I have a family to support. My wages are lower because of the conrtact but I still have my job. I couldn't make what I make now anywhere else Raptor. Could you?? Noone is happy with the contract but it was necessary in my opinion. They didn't give all your pay and benefits away Raptor. None expected 9-11 or war or SARS or a poor economy all back to back. There was more to it than just fly by the seat of your pants vote.


By the way, I know CIO. Really a good person! Really.
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DaeJa Vu!!!

I was once a young pup myself, but I never sacrificed my integrity and/or beliefs. When you speak of the ‘ME’ generation, you had better take a look in the mirror and realize how selfish you are. The ‘ONLY’!!! reason that you make the salary that you earn today is by the sacrifices that our Union Brothers/Sisters have made for us in their undying pursuit to make a living wage for their children. Even when I walked the picket line for my IAM EAL Brothers/Sisters in 89, I knew that they were sacrificing themselves for ‘US’!!!

From that time forward, I was a die hard IAM Unionist until the UAL ESOP ’Union Lead/International perpetuated’ scam.

From therein, I vowed to never again be a ‘SUCKER’!!!

For your edification, the majority of AMFA supporters were from IND.
Also, for your edification, the majority were ‘Junior’ employees (less than 10 years).
But they had the tenacity to appreciate that they had to make a sacrifice for their children and future generations.

You do not have the tenacity.!!!
You are all out for yourselves!!!

UT

(UAL_TECH. . .)
When you speak of the ‘ME’ generation, you had better take a look in the mirror and realize how selfish you are.

You don't know me from Adam sir. Pretty judgemental on your part don't you think? You are entitled to your opinion I suppose but don't tell me what you think I am because I choose to make a good life for my family. I am grateful for those who have come before me. I have never said I wasn't. So your comments are completely out of line with me sir. I have seen what AMFA calls tenacity. Allowing UAL to go into bankruptcy so even more people lose their jobs, so the retiree pension may be affected. At NWA where 4500 of your union brothers and sisters have lost their jobs.

For your edification, the majority of AMFA supporters were from IND.
Also, for your edification, the majority were ‘Junior’ employees (less than 10 years).
But they had the tenacity to appreciate that they had to make a sacrifice for their children and future generations.

What sacrifice are you referring to UT?????????

We (TWU members) ALL made sacrifices!!



I was once a young pup myself, but I never sacrificed my integrity and/or beliefs.

I used to be a young pup too and and have not sacrificed my integrity and/or beliefs. I'm standing up for what I believe in.

And by the way I could care less about your past or present convictions. Talk to someone who cares will ya' pal. How's that for tenacity??? :shock:
 
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Well, it seems that I recall not so long ago that a giant rat was erected outside the international offices in NY City by none other than AMFA supporters with picket signs no less. We all saw the pictures. Wasn't it you that put them up?? My question to you is this. . . would you define that as "unprofessional", "childhood behavior" or just being AMFA?? :huh:
You guys and your organization tell so many lies you cannot keep them straight. We are able to prove through documentation that you lie!

Try reading your TWU Express and quit telling lies!

Your TWU Publication said it was TWU Local 100 that erected that rat.

You guys are the biggest liars on the planet.

Screen Capture from TWU Express:
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Link to the TWU Express to That Proves "twuer" is a LIAR! SEE PAGE #7
twuer Lies and Here is Proof

Maybe that acitivity was "unprofessional" and "childish behavior" but you lie about who is responsible.
 
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You guys and your organization tell so many lies you cannot keep them straight. We are able to prove through documentation that you lie!

Try reading your TWU Express and quit telling lies!

Your TWU Publication said it was TWU Local 100 that erected that rat.

You guys are the biggest liars on the planet.

Screen Capture from TWU Express:
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Link to the TWU Express to That Proves "twuer" is a LIAR! SEE PAGE #7
twuer Lies and Here is Proof

Maybe that acitivity was "unprofessional" and "childish behavior" but you lie about who is responsible.
Ouch!!!!! That hurts don't it twuer, your own members in the largest local in the twu, local 100, protesting the KING OF THE LYING twu RATS: SONNY the coward HALL!!!! Sucks to be a twuer. BYE, BYE twu!!!!!
 
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And by the way I could care less about your past or present convictions. Talk to someone who cares will ya' pal. How's that for tenacity??? shock.gif

What if UAL TECH was a felon and trying to be a leader. You would not care that he was representing you and your craft? Really? I guess the bible does say forgive and forget, right twuer? Being a twuer, you have to look the other way quite often.

The twu: PUNKS, DRUNKS, COWARDS, AND YES, FELONS!!!!

Next the twu will start a card drive at Fulsom Prison. :lol:
 
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TWU informer said:
You guys and your organization tell so many lies you cannot keep them straight. We are able to prove through documentation that you lie!

Try reading your TWU Express and quit telling lies!

Your TWU Publication said it was TWU Local 100 that erected that rat.

You guys are the biggest liars on the planet.

Screen Capture from TWU Express:
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Link to the TWU Express to That Proves "twuer" is a LIAR! SEE PAGE #7
twuer Lies and Here is Proof

Maybe that acitivity was "unprofessional" and "childish behavior" but you lie about who is responsible.
I appreciate your effert to locate this picture Informer. I tried to find it in previous posts but was unable to. If you will notice in my post I said AMFA supporters. Is Chuck Schaulk not an AMFA supporter?? Bob Owens?? Look at the words under the picture. . .
photo appeared on PRO-AMFA websites.

What does that mean to you Informer??
 
Steve, what a great picture of you!
Whatta you know about anything? All you do is parrot lies and misinformation like a good useful idiot.
I was there in Tulsa when Cunningham applied to management . We busted his balls for it and he did get turned down. Eventually he saw that it was not worth going to the dAArk side. I first mentioned AMFA to Dan in 1990 and was promply slammed by Dan for he felt we could change from within. I thought to myself, "he'll learn". Dan will back me up on this and to this day he will you that I was the first man to mention AMFA to him.
WHERE WERE YOU STEVE?
I was at AFW when he was co-chairman, I was a shop-steward. I was at AFW when Dave Stewart was a die hard TWU lackey (sorry Dave!) much like yourself. There where two factions at AFW at the time. The Cunningham tough guy lets enforce the contract side and the Dave Stewart lets be nice to management so they'll like us side (again, sorry Dave!). Dan won the election but his kick ass philosophy goes against the TWU COMPANY UNION philosophy. Bull #### charges were trumped up and the International removed Dan from office.
WHERE WERE YOU STEVE?
Dave Stewart eventually changed his mind and attitude and became an AMFA supporter. SO THERE'S HOPE FOR YOU STEVE!
Again Steve, great picture!


TWU OUT THE DOOR IN '04
 
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And by the way I could care less about your past or present convictions. Talk to someone who cares will ya' pal. How's that for tenacity??? shock.gif

What if UAL TECH was a felon and trying to be a leader. You would not care that he was representing you and your craft? Really? I guess the bible does say forgive and forget, right twuer? Being a twuer, you have to look the other way quite often.

The twu: PUNKS, DRUNKS, COWARDS, AND YES, FELONS!!!!

Next the twu will start a card drive at Fulsom Prison. :lol:
You're not too smart are you Hackman???? By convictions I wasn't talking about his criminal record. I know that is what a lot of you AMFA boys look in to but that wasn't the premise of my comments. He made reference to what he felt strongly about in the past and what he feels strongly about now. His convictions. . .what he feels strongly about, his views on things. Some words do have more than one meaning. Or did you not know that. . .

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"But this time LOCAL 100participants erected a 15 foot tall inflatable rat outside the union's headquarters"

twuer, what part of that statement says "the 15 foot rat was erected by AMFA supporters"? When do you twu clowns stop lying? God will punish you twuer!!!! :shock:
 
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And by the way I could care less about your past or present convictions. Talk to someone who cares will ya' pal. How's that for tenacity??? shock.gif

What if UAL TECH was a felon and trying to be a leader. You would not care that he was representing you and your craft? Really? I guess the bible does say forgive and forget, right twuer? Being a twuer, you have to look the other way quite often.

The twu: PUNKS, DRUNKS, COWARDS, AND YES, FELONS!!!!

Next the twu will start a card drive at Fulsom Prison. :lol:
You're not too smart are you Hackman???? By convictions I wasn't talking about his criminal record. I know that is what a lot of you AMFA boys look in to but that wasn't the premise of my comments. He made reference to what he felt strongly about in the past and what he feels strongly about now. His convictions. . .what he feels strongly about, his views on things. Some words do have more than one meaning. Or did you not know that. . .

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Well jeez twuer, my bad. Its hard sometimes to know where your coming from, because you lie so much. You can't be too intelligent, your still a twu true believer.

The problem with the twu today is many (notice I said many, not ALL) of the people with any integrity have stepped down and removed themselves from the twu. Can you see what type of people you have left? I guess not.

Guys like rick mullins, kirk wells, and steve connel are not people I want leading my union. Some people are just satisfied with less apparently. :blink:
 
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And will all of those that were hit by the B-scale, C-scale and the SRP/OSM classification get their money back?

Mojo, I have respected what you have said here and your experience and apparent skill as a member of our profession, but you reall have no idea what is going on outside of Local 530. Thanks for your professionalism, but as the former TWA employees like to say, "You have no idea until you know what we have been though".
Buck, if I don't voice my concern, there will be no Local 530. I can't accept that.
 
mojo13 said:
Buck, if I don't voice my concern, there will be no Local 530. I can't accept that.
Maybe you guys could have Steve Connell wheel that Coffin in front of TWU Local 530 and get your system seniority back before AA starts cutting heads at MCI?

You know, if I really wanted to show what an embarrassment to the profession the TWU is, I would post the pictures of them literally show their asses. Or "mooning" if you will.
 

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