New Call Sign

[Bobbie]

Um, US Airways WAS liquidated. They were liquidated straight into the arms of America West. There's no denying that a liquidation took place...they picked up all the pieces they wanted and abandoned the rest. Airplanes, operating certificate, assumed leases, facilities, routes, etc.

They may have "merged" operations, but the original US Airways corporation was imploded after America West took over the operations.

 

[EastUS]

There are facts and there are suppositions.

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"career expectations"?..OK, now that's hilarious, and always will be until the very end of time itself. How have those "career expectations" actually worked out as proven predictions of the present, or any future? Shucks..and here I'd thought the call sign was good for chuckles all by itself

I don't mean disrespect towards those who've proper pride in their heritage call sign, but honestly folks...How are we really supposed to seriously take the name of some desert plant as a call sign out east, without at least a few grins?

 

[Bobbie]

I don't mean disrespect towards those who've proper pride in their heritage call sign, but honestly folks...How are we really supposed to seriously take the name of some desert plant as a call sign out east, without at least a few grins?

I think USAir is more appropriate for a lot of reasons, but mainly because US Air, itself, was a combination of multiple carriers. I don't think any major has gone through the number of major mergers US Airways has gone through, at least not in my time. The very concept of US Air was joining together weaker airlines to form a stronger one, at least allegedly.

In that spirit, I think "US Air" should live on. You didn't see US Airways using PSA, Allegheny, or Piedmont as their callsign.

This whole Cactus thing is an "F you" to the former US Airways pilots, plain and simple. It makes no sense otherwise. The certificate that survived has a current, longstanding callsign of USAir. There's no reason to change it.

 

[Leonidas]

I think USAir is more appropriate for a lot of reasons, but mainly because US Air, itself, was a combination of multiple carriers. I don't think any major has gone through the number of major mergers US Airways has gone through, at least not in my time. The very concept of US Air was joining together weaker airlines to form a stronger one, at least allegedly.

In that spirit, I think "US Air" should live on. You didn't see US Airways using PSA, Allegheny, or Piedmont as their callsign.

This whole Cactus thing is an "F you" to the former US Airways pilots, plain and simple. It makes no sense otherwise. The certificate that survived has a current, longstanding callsign of USAir. There's no reason to change it.

You forget that awa aquired usair, in the past it was usair doing the aquiring.

 

[Redbird]

This whole Cactus thing is an "F you" to the former US Airways pilots, plain and simple. It makes no sense otherwise. The certificate that survived has a current, longstanding callsign of USAir. There's no reason to change it.

An "F you"?

Sorta like Jesus tossin' out the merchants in the temple, huh?

(just struck by the irony of the blinking Jesus promo and the term... sorry)

( I can see Peter telling someone that but not Jesus )

 

[Bobbie]

I think, by now, American society has accepted that "F you" means "in your face." I use the term a lot and I don't think it's un-Christian. Yes, I know the term originated with the four-letter F-word, but this is a term that's widely used and not at all inappropriate. I apologize if I upset anyone.

 

[BoeingBoy]

In that spirit, I think "US Air" should live on. You didn't see US Airways using PSA, Allegheny, or Piedmont as their callsign.

The change from Allegheny to US Air wasn't done as part of a merger. The change in 1979 - call sign and airline name - was supposedly made to shed Allegheny's regional image as deregulation became the law of the land.

Jim

 

[Redbird]

I think, by now, American society has accepted that "F you" means "in your face." I use the term a lot and I don't think it's un-Christian. Yes, I know the term originated with the four-letter F-word, but this is a term that's widely used and not at all inappropriate. I apologize if I upset anyone.

Must be a left coast thing. I've not heard that definition on the right coast but then I lead a sheltered life.

Not offended either. The language evolves as does meanings. Fer'zample.. many in the church of that time were offended by "Good-bye' which was a contraction of "God be with you". So I will listen to future sermons to see when the "F you" becomes part of the every day lexicon.

 

[N965VJ]

I thought the “Fâ€￾ stood for “fiddlesticksâ€￾, or at least that’s what I hear they try to tell everyone in recurrent training.




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[SegmentKing]

+ U

 

[midnightmech]

So answer me this....why are west crew wearing the CACTUS sticker on there company issued ID's ???? Maybe there should be an EAST sticker toooooooo !!

 

[rjh]

This whole Cactus thing is an "F you" to the former US Airways pilots, plain and simple. It makes no sense otherwise. The certificate that survived has a current, longstanding callsign of USAir. There's no reason to change it.

Then by your logic, keeping USAir as the call sign would have been an "F you" to the former America West pilots. The reason for keeping the Cactus call sign change comes down to one simple word: compromise.

 

[oldiebutgoody]

Then by your logic, keeping USAir as the call sign would have been an "F you" to the former America West pilots. The reason for keeping the Cactus call sign change comes down to one simple word: compromise.

Who really gives a crap what the callsign is? During my career I've used many. The only thing is, why Cactus? It doesn't mean anything anymore. America West does not exist. it's like picking a random piece to play Monopoly. We could just use the name "wheelbarrow" or "top hat" as well.

The company's name is US Airways. Therefore, a call sign like "US Air" is a descriptive term. That's really the only issue.

Again, if calling the fleet "cactus" quiets the juvenile crowd, then so be it. It does seem to have a sort of "regional" sound to it, which was the main reason to use "US Air" in the first place.

 

[SolidCactus]

Personally, I like "swoosh"... Or maybe "frosty" - I think that would make Shannon feel at home.

Seriously, America West acquired US Airways. AWA is the "management" in charge. They really can do whatever they want.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Who really gives a crap what the callsign is? During my career I've used many. The only thing is, why Cactus? It doesn't mean anything anymore. America West does not exist. it's like picking a random piece to play Monopoly. We could just use the name "wheelbarrow" or "top hat" as well.

The company's name is US Airways. Therefore, a call sign like "US Air" is a descriptive term. That's really the only issue.

Again, if calling the fleet "cactus" quiets the juvenile crowd, then so be it. It does seem to have a sort of "regional" sound to it, which was the main reason to use "US Air" in the first place.

I've heard others that make no sense whatsoever...like "WaterSki." Now there's a great call sign for an airline.

During the Piedmont merger it was decided to stay with USAir (even though Piedmont had a better customer service track record.) "Piedmont" was thought to be too regional, and I agree. It no longer was appropriate to the character of the merged airline's customer base. "USAir" was far better suited.

Now that entire logic is turned on it's head. We have a large North American player with significant presence in the Caribbean and Europe...so what do they do....use the call sign of the defunct regional carrier. Lots of great rocket surgeons out there in Tempe.