IAM topic of the week

[Planemx]

Canale has nothing to do with the PIT hanger, 141 does not represent maintenance at US, that would be District 142.

Also there will be no strike vote, your not in section 6 negotiations, only voting on a transition agreement.

Who are you directing this comment to? Please put your comments
under the poster they pertain to otherwise they seem to come out
of nowhere. Thank you for your consideration.

141 did represent M&R - but not now. It was called 141M.....I am sure 700 can explain the details for you (and everybody else)

 

[roabilly]

Mr. Jester…

Please take no offense tahh all this, but did yahh really gain all this insight ‘n wisdom in ahh bagroom? Yer obviously ahh pretty smart fella.. well read…all that...hmmmm… perplexing …down here we call it ahh fish outahh water !

What are yer motivations? What do you believe in regards to the current plight of the American worker? Can you spell out whose side yer on…Corporate America, or Joe Six-Pack? After all, this is ahh organized labor thread !

Last, ‘n most importantly….as an airline employee, should this Fleet group be willing tahh accept anything less than tha current legacy carrier industry standard on any upcoming T/A …. if so why?

Yer little southern buddy….


Roabilly 😉

 

[mike33]

You have a point....NWA was training CAS mx guys in Tucson for months KNOWING FULL WELL that AMFA was going to go the distance. As soon as they went on strike - the SCABS came in....NWA spent MILLIONS of dollars to screw the employees, their own employees. AMFA was asking for less $$$ than what was spent on training the SCABS to replace them...

This is the time for all of us to sober up.

They also new that they were going to declare BK......The strike continued under the auspicies of BK....

September 14, 2005

An Important Message to Customers

Northwest has voluntarily filed for bankruptcy protection under Chapter 11 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code. The bankruptcy process will enable Northwest to continue its transformation into a new-era carrier in keeping with the permanent changes that have affected the airline industry, such as rising labor costs and a doubling of fuel prices over the past two years.


Mechanics for Northwest Airlines can strike at 11:01 p.m. Aug. 19. 2005. ( Which they did !! )

Usairways is not in or projected to be in...BK. Different atmosphere
NWA was losing $4 million a day.....

 

[Planemx]

They also new that they were going to declare BK......The strike continued under the auspicies of BK....

September 14, 2005

An Important Message to Customers

Northwest has voluntarily filed for bankruptcy protection under Chapter 11 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code. The bankruptcy process will enable Northwest to continue its transformation into a new-era carrier in keeping with the permanent changes that have affected the airline industry, such as rising labor costs and a doubling of fuel prices over the past two years.


Mechanics for Northwest Airlines can strike at 11:01 p.m. Aug. 19. 2005. ( Which they did !! )

Usairways is not in or projected to be in...BK. Different atmosphere
NWA was losing $4 million a day.....

True, different atmosphere.....but those tactics can be employed at almost anytime. I don't see US going into BK anytime soon but I see the unions spinning it into a threat.....

 

[john john]

Right John John,

Are you ready to support Management in terminating those employees who cannot keep-up with that hectic pace? So think that if you pay people more, who cannot do that job, they will suddenly develop strong backs, arms and legs, and bulk up 50 pounds of muscle? Ain't happening, and you know it! You would have just more of the same, but at a more expensive price.

So Economizes Jester.

I guess WN has some kind of magic employees since motivation is not a factor or maybe McNamee is injecting his juice
Kissmyassizes
john john

 

[pjirish317]

True, different atmosphere.....but those tactics can be employed at almost anytime. I don't see US going into BK anytime soon but I see the unions spinning it into a threat.....

Because that is what company mouthpieces do. Spin the tale for the company. That is all canoli has ever done. Be a company mouthpiece. God forbid that the I'LL ASK MANANGEMENT spin the tale in the members favor. Or speak for the members needs, not the company's.

 

[Planemx]

From the looks of it you won't have to worry about the current lineup for long.....

 

[pjirish317]

From the looks of it you won't have to worry about the current lineup for long.....

It looks that way. Although, they are still trying to instill fear in the membership. Through propaganda, and misinformation.

 

[orioleman]

jester
"And you would be wrong... if that was the case, then the various BK courts through the several airline bankruptcies wouldn't have told management to go back to the negotiation table and hammer out something both side could accept. There was a requirment of "good faith" to be demonstrated by management. I am not going to tell you that there weren't some large cuts in pay, but frankly, I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that if Management could have voided the CBAs and slash pay in half, they would have done so in a heart beat, thus employees were given a much higher priority than most creditors."

first let me say that I won't run to the mods on you .. But I take OFFENSE to you trying to tell us what happened and what didn't

happen in BK>. Guess what pal YOU weren't there. SO your opinion on that is strictly that.. And the fact that you want to argue

facts about something you WERE NOT apart of is very insulting.. So why don't you stick to your how great SW is and leave

OUR HISTORY books alone.....

 

[roabilly]

It looks that way. Although, they are still trying to instill fear in the membership. Through propaganda, and misinformation.

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I hear yahh.... PJ... as long as we...as ahh colective group, are aware ahh this
propaganda sh** we good !

All ya'll know how tahh filter out tha BS. Don't be swayed. Stay Solid !

Ain't nobody fergot how tahh vote NO !

 

[orioleman]

dio,
"You know I am a solid union guy. You can be that and be an anti-Canale guy."

bravo bravo.. couldn't agree with you more..

 

[PI Blue]

It's good to see that the membership has finally realized that we are not bottom feeders but are as much as an intricate part of this operation as everyone else. The company and the Canolies don't think so but we know better. Heck, if our contract can put us back in BK then that is icing on the cake for the stance. Trust me, this company has put a many of employee in BK.

Change will take time but we have to have patience with that. The first step is to make the change and then move forward. Please understand that change has happened in the past and might happen tomarrow but the one thing that has not changed is that this company will s@#$w us over in a heart beat and so has Canale and his cronies.

Remember, your not fighting to keep your $100,000 a year job you are fighting just to keep the bill collectors off your back and food on the table. Why should Randy, Dougie and "Uncle Al" eat prime rib every night when we are forced to eat bologna. I'm not asking for the whole pie, just a little bigger piece.


Just my two cents worth

 

[The Shocker]

PJ,
The problem with Jester's post is not only the low value he places on rampers [especially these senior rampers who he refers to as having bad backs] but also his failure to recognize the industry standards.

His mentioning of the ammendable date and that two years isn't that far off indicate that he doesn't understand the RLA. I find this interesting because some of the USwest workers were apparently told that once the USeast contract is ammendable that they would all lose their jobs anyways. Amazingly, the USwest contract is already up so we were able to inform some members out there of the truth that you can't be contracted out unless you give up more scope.

Further, while bringing up Delta in his argument, I brought out the truth about the Delta ramp and that Delta has 7,000 rampers and has more of its stations being worked by its own rampers than our class 1 stations. But he intentionally didn't recognize this since it doesn't flow too well with his contracting out theory. Instead he started talking about Delta global services again.

At any rate, Jester is not alone in his position. His position is well documented and is the same type of thinking that management has. It's the same position that rampers have been fighting against for quite a while. The difference this time is that the masses are standing solid and making a better fight and aren't agreeing to allow more contracting out language. Simply put, hemenway will not be able to achieve a TA if it doesn't have at least $20hr and other significants. I dont' think anyone should get too excited about negotiations this week as I think it will take time for Hemenway to understand. In the meantime, Boss Canale needs to start section 6 for the west as it is getting hugely ridiculus.

Again, Jester's opinion isn't marginal, you see it all the time from your managers and some among our masses. But jesters opinion isn't finally convincing when solidarity is strong. What will determine an equitable outcome of the TA will be the solidarity of those rampers who know they deserve alot more than what USAIRWAYS has offered.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

Hi No-Direction supporters. Number one reason to keep Randy Canale as 141 President and protect your jobs. Read below.

Hey whats is the tally on stations won, No-Direction vs. Team 08. It was a good try but the members of this union are smarter than the no-direction slate thinks.


Merger Information 2/25
Merger Team Update Merger Mania is getting stronger every day. Will it happen? When? Which airlines will try to pair up? There is a lot we don’t yet know. One thing you can count on is the Machinists Union. We have been working on the different merger scenarios since 2006 to protect our members. In our view, none of the mergers currently being proposed will benefit employees, passengers or the cities that these airlines serve. For those reasons, the Machinists Union will oppose any merger that negatively impacts our members and the traveling public. We have contacted and received the support of important consumer and airline passenger advocacy groups. Members of the IAM’s Transportation Merger Team will continue meeting with key representatives in the Senate and the House of Representatives who agree that industry consolidation is not necessary. IAM Locals Develop Unified Merger Plans More than 120 IAM Local officers met last week in Maryland to develop a unified defense strategy against risky airline mergers. “Our local air transport leadership committed to support the efforts of the Transportation Merger Team,†said IAM Transportation General Vice President Robert Roach, Jr. “The local officers unanimously agreed that any major airline merger would be anti-competitive for passengers and adversely affect all workers in airline and airport support jobs,†said Roach. “Air Transport locals agreed to prepare their membership for airport demonstrations and engaging their elected city, state and federal representatives at their home locations.†Railroad locals offered their support to the air transport locals’ efforts. The Machinists Union will oppose any merger that negatively impacts our members. FEBRUARY 25, 2008 Transportation Labor Works Together IAM leaders met with officers from other AFL-CIO airline unions to discuss the impact of potential airline mergers on workers. Following the meeting, the AFL-CIO issued this statement: “The American labor movement is deeply concerned about possible mergers between the major air carriers. Through decades of experience, we know that corporations will pursue their own interests and ignore the impact of their decisions on employees unless the workers are at the table with a strong voice through strong unions. “We are united in our commitment to protect airline employees from the severe harm that may stem from poorly conceived airline consolidations that ignore the needs of employees and the flying public.†“We will use any and all options – including deployment of legislative, political and capital strategies – to leverage the strength of working people to ensure this latest merger mania doesn't harm this industry, its employees, passengers and communities.†“We will engage elected officials at the highest level to ensure the voices of workers are not drowned out by voices of greed and Wall Street who may seize this moment as a chance to create wealth for a few at the expense of many.â€

Link to the truth

Hey DA, I miss u.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Hi No-Direction supporters. Number one reason to keep Randy Canale as 141 President and protect your jobs. Read below.

Hey whats is the tally on stations won, No-Direction vs. Team 08. It was a good try but the members of this union are smarter than the no-direction slate thinks.


Merger Information 2/25
Merger Team Update Merger Mania is getting stronger every day. Will it happen? When? Which airlines will try to pair up? There is a lot we don’t yet know. One thing you can count on is the Machinists Union. We have been working on the different merger scenarios since 2006 to protect our members. In our view, none of the mergers currently being proposed will benefit employees, passengers or the cities that these airlines serve. For those reasons, the Machinists Union will oppose any merger that negatively impacts our members and the traveling public. We have contacted and received the support of important consumer and airline passenger advocacy groups. Members of the IAM’s Transportation Merger Team will continue meeting with key representatives in the Senate and the House of Representatives who agree that industry consolidation is not necessary. IAM Locals Develop Unified Merger Plans More than 120 IAM Local officers met last week in Maryland to develop a unified defense strategy against risky airline mergers. “Our local air transport leadership committed to support the efforts of the Transportation Merger Team,†said IAM Transportation General Vice President Robert Roach, Jr. “The local officers unanimously agreed that any major airline merger would be anti-competitive for passengers and adversely affect all workers in airline and airport support jobs,†said Roach. “Air Transport locals agreed to prepare their membership for airport demonstrations and engaging their elected city, state and federal representatives at their home locations.†Railroad locals offered their support to the air transport locals’ efforts. The Machinists Union will oppose any merger that negatively impacts our members. FEBRUARY 25, 2008 Transportation Labor Works Together IAM leaders met with officers from other AFL-CIO airline unions to discuss the impact of potential airline mergers on workers. Following the meeting, the AFL-CIO issued this statement: “The American labor movement is deeply concerned about possible mergers between the major air carriers. Through decades of experience, we know that corporations will pursue their own interests and ignore the impact of their decisions on employees unless the workers are at the table with a strong voice through strong unions. “We are united in our commitment to protect airline employees from the severe harm that may stem from poorly conceived airline consolidations that ignore the needs of employees and the flying public.†“We will use any and all options – including deployment of legislative, political and capital strategies – to leverage the strength of working people to ensure this latest merger mania doesn't harm this industry, its employees, passengers and communities.†“We will engage elected officials at the highest level to ensure the voices of workers are not drowned out by voices of greed and Wall Street who may seize this moment as a chance to create wealth for a few at the expense of many.â€

Link to the truth

Hey DA, I miss u.

Item 1: Canale showed he would be willing to throw more jobs under the bus when he signed the sweetheart back in September. The members don't trust him at all. He even wanted to steal our profit sharing and tag on extra years of a bankruptcy contract. What the hell?
Canale = Rejected 2007 sellout. Are you trying to tell me he changed his ways?

Item 2: The nomination process is winding down. The NEW DIRECTION TEAM has nominations that represent about 17,000 members [Most of Florida, MIA, PBI, FLL, MCO, The "Twin Towers" of United ORD, DEN, B stations at United like HNL, JFK, EWR, and the USAIRWAYS Grand slam of hubs "LAS,PHX,CLT, PHL. Throw in PIT to make it the full pentagon. Last count Canale was somewhere hovering below 10,000. He's done fairly well in the small stations campaigning on the members 'dime', but he's way behind, almost 2-1 for the NEW DIRECTIONS TEAM.

Item 3: I support the letter from Roach. It was a well written piece and I like how he talks about using leverage for workers. Roach is preaching to the choir on this one. The masses almost always get screwed over in mergers. That's why I was confused why Canale would give the company everything it wanted this past September and make claims that the ramp had no leverage. "I Did the best I could do" wasn't good enough. Canale is with management, bottom line.

BTW, Rich Delaney doesn't plan on being on the United Board of Directors from what I understand. I admire that. Too bad Boss Canale likes 'kissing the pinky' of Tilton.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[pjirish317]

Hi No-Direction supporters. Number one reason to keep Randy Canale as 141 President and protect your jobs. Read below.

Hey whats is the tally on stations won, No-Direction vs. Team 08. It was a good try but the members of this union are smarter than the no-direction slate thinks.


Merger Information 2/25
Merger Team Update Merger Mania is getting stronger every day. Will it happen? When? Which airlines will try to pair up? There is a lot we don’t yet know. One thing you can count on is the Machinists Union. We have been working on the different merger scenarios since 2006 to protect our members. In our view, none of the mergers currently being proposed will benefit employees, passengers or the cities that these airlines serve. For those reasons, the Machinists Union will oppose any merger that negatively impacts our members and the traveling public. We have contacted and received the support of important consumer and airline passenger advocacy groups. Members of the IAM’s Transportation Merger Team will continue meeting with key representatives in the Senate and the House of Representatives who agree that industry consolidation is not necessary. IAM Locals Develop Unified Merger Plans More than 120 IAM Local officers met last week in Maryland to develop a unified defense strategy against risky airline mergers. “Our local air transport leadership committed to support the efforts of the Transportation Merger Team,†said IAM Transportation General Vice President Robert Roach, Jr. “The local officers unanimously agreed that any major airline merger would be anti-competitive for passengers and adversely affect all workers in airline and airport support jobs,†said Roach. “Air Transport locals agreed to prepare their membership for airport demonstrations and engaging their elected city, state and federal representatives at their home locations.†Railroad locals offered their support to the air transport locals’ efforts. The Machinists Union will oppose any merger that negatively impacts our members. FEBRUARY 25, 2008 Transportation Labor Works Together IAM leaders met with officers from other AFL-CIO airline unions to discuss the impact of potential airline mergers on workers. Following the meeting, the AFL-CIO issued this statement: “The American labor movement is deeply concerned about possible mergers between the major air carriers. Through decades of experience, we know that corporations will pursue their own interests and ignore the impact of their decisions on employees unless the workers are at the table with a strong voice through strong unions. “We are united in our commitment to protect airline employees from the severe harm that may stem from poorly conceived airline consolidations that ignore the needs of employees and the flying public.†“We will use any and all options – including deployment of legislative, political and capital strategies – to leverage the strength of working people to ensure this latest merger mania doesn't harm this industry, its employees, passengers and communities.†“We will engage elected officials at the highest level to ensure the voices of workers are not drowned out by voices of greed and Wall Street who may seize this moment as a chance to create wealth for a few at the expense of many.â€

Link to the truth

Hey DA, I miss u.

If only we had a strong union. Canoli is the biggest anti-labor union president that I have ever seen. If he would just accept responsibity for serving Fleet Service up to the company on a platter, well then we might respect him. Shocker, I ask you, Do you work for USAirways, if so, what station, and how much time. It appears to me you have no dog in this fight, other than to try to save canoli's and his cronies butts. As you have seen, your propaganda no longer works on us "dumb ole rampers" anymore. Are you too afraid to answer the questions?