Stall when you have a loser? USAPA seems to have learned from ALPA.
All barbs aside, nic4, this will play out. Your not making any headway at reducing our morale with the endless one-liners. There not enough readers here and we're already committed, as you are, to our own positions. So talk about happy things.
From filing to verdict took 8 months is hardly stalling. We met every time line set. The appeal is another matter. We cant even start until remedy phase is over. My take, the remedy will be USAPA forced to negotiate using Section 22-NIC. We cannot drag our feet or negotiate in bad faith (like demanding $500/hr and 120 days vacation a year). We have to keep the judge informed whats going on. Maybe even be monitored by some pest of AOLs choosing. That could be a yawn not worth finishing off an appeal. All depends on the LOA84 timeline, that might require we keep going with the appeal until we know how LOA84 plays out. A lot of moving pieces here, nic4, so I wouldnt try to simplify this too much.
From the timelines I am seeing Addington will be well over before MDA gets heard.
How? Next MDA most likely November, unless ALPA can come up with another stall. Addington wont be well over until the appeal, if followed to conclusion, is over. Again, too many moving parts for blanket timeline predictions.
Even if MDA wins, and Nicolau revisits the list, east's biggest complaint will not change. A new list will not be manufactured from top down, only the very bottom would be significantlly impacted, if changed at all. My real question to this is there any MDA pilot senior to Colello? If not, even if they are considered active mainline , that does not mean they would be moved above Odell. Re-read the portion of Nic that addresses the east pilot nuetrals objection and why Nic found the way he did for those who had been recalled.
Hard to predict. Opinions are like assumptions, everyones got one. Many senior to Colello. No telling where any of them would end up. Anyway, thats your best case. ALPA Pilot neutrals tend to remain neutral, otherwise they fall off the ALPA gravy train. Even in your best case scenario, they all go above Odell. The number MDA covered I think is in dispute. But with all MDA above Odell, that pushes the bottom, even under NIC, to sooner upgrades.
I am very unfamiliar with the history of the MDA saga, however I will add this. I do not know if there is any legal requirement of a union to have seperate locals for different companies. For example, could not United Mine Workers have a local with some members working for Peabody coal and others working for Phelps Dodge digging copper? Other unions have locals where members are actually performing different jobs. For example, Hotel workers could have some members who are in houskeeping, and others who are front desk staff. My point is , just because you are a member of the CLT LEC does not necessarily make you a mainline USAirways pilot.
Obviously your very unfamiliar with MDA. Even more unfamiliar with how other unions work. You realize that when a GM plant in Detroit closes, their #1 seniority guy cant even bid at the bottom of GM Atlanta plant? He has to reapply for a new job. Rest of your examples show grasping at straws. ALPA negotiated the MDA contract. They forced all U pilots who went to MDA to pay dues or get fired. Going back to the duck. Its a duck.
