AMFA getting it done

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

There are over 25 docks in TUL and 5 in DWH brother.

Now name specific docks at AS, UA, and DL? (Hint...you can count them on one hand.)

I honestly can not remember all the docks but I know in 12 years as a Fleet Service Clerk at TULE, most of that as a floater, I have worked on all the docks at one time or another.

If you care to count hanger 80 and 6A twice since they sometimes stick two aircraft in there and NOT count the TP 25 sounds about right. That is if your counting the pulse line as individual docks. Though when I left not all the docks were being used. Is he talking available or actually producing?

 

[swamt]

Chirp Chirp I hear the crickets. No overspin heard from!!!!!!!!!! Does anybody think he was lieing to the people on this forum? My opinion is yes. If not he would have replied to my post. Can anybody say liar? How about no credibility?

This is what paid stooges do that are being paid to help try and keep AMFA from entering AA. OS, as well as his other cronies have "0" credibility. They constantly lie and repeat lies until someone starts to believe them. And this is the reason I entered the AAers forums to help spred the truth about AMFA. But they usually are the demise of the union they are pushing for as they get proven wrong on every posting that they spew the lies on.

 

[Flying low]

So, how much longer do we have to wait for the vote after the merger?

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

So, how much longer do we have to wait for the vote after the merger?

FlyingLow

As soon as the AMFA Organizers hit the target number of cards that can be verified so we won't have to
collect another card ever again AMFA will file so that we can rid AA of the TWU.

No matter when the merger takes place until we are considered a single carrier by the NMB we will have a chance to file without having to include the USAir guys I believe.

The sooner you help us collect enough cards if your not already doing it already, the faster we will reach our goal and Rid AA of the TWU.

Get with your stations AMFA organizer or ask who is doing it at your station and help in any way you can.

 

[1AA]

Well AMFA must be doing something right. I got the ANTI Teamsters letter (3 pages) from our mighty leader Jim Little. It mentions AMFA once and the rest of the bashing is against the Teamsters. WOW all these months the TWU was quiet about the Teamsters raid and now he speaks volumes about the TWU and the raid from the Teamsters. I guess his plan to cause a diversion from the AMFA drive back fired on him. Hoffa stabbed Little in the back. Hoffa sees $$$ by going forward with the drive. Too bad he won't get enough cards. After all these years Little is getting a taste of what it is like to get screwed.

Sign a AMFA card and we will prevail in getting rid of the TWU and the Teamsters forever.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

Hey, where's a picture of all the teamster cards? Thought they were going to file. Ha! What a joke! Tic-toc. Tic-toc. The twu's days are winding down at AA.

Go AMFA!

 

[jacfrost]

I got the ANTI Teamsters letter (3 pages) from our mighty leader Jim Little. It mentions AMFA once and the rest of the bashing is against the Teamsters.

At least the TWU is finally trying to make a stand, more than what they did for the mechanics. They might as well just fold, exactly like they did with AA.

 

[Overspeed]

Overspin your going to be spending overtime in the confessional. ( For some reason I think your used to that.) There is 19 o/h docks in Tulsa. The pulse line is scheduled to leave in Mar and out of those 4 lines 2 might stay so that means your down to 17. The 2 - 767 lines will be following as soon as AA finds an MRO to do the work. So now you are down to 15. Are you following the math???????? As far as DWH goes there is 6 bays and 0 o/h lines. So now your 30 o/h lines are down to 15 and dropping. You should probably repeat the 1st grade and sharpen up on your mathematics. Either that or off to the confessional you go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Read the dock plan. You are wrong. Outsourcing of a wide bodies and peak work beyond what the in-house dock capacity could handle was in the contract language. Did you read the CBA? Any work being outsourced is beyond what the new in-house capacity can handle, not take away more work to layoff more.

DWH is a mod/drop in facility.

As I said, how many airframe overhaul lines do all the IBT and AMFA represented airlines have?

 

[Overspeed]

This is what paid stooges do that are being paid to help try and keep AMFA from entering AA. OS, as well as his other cronies have "0" credibility. They constantly lie and repeat lies until someone starts to believe them. And this is the reason I entered the AAers forums to help spred the truth about AMFA. But they usually are the demise of the union they are pushing for as they get proven wrong on every posting that they spew the lies on.

Then tell us the truth of why when AMFA was at its peak they had over 20,000 members and now they have 3,000. Tell us the truth about the $500K special one time payment to OV when he retired after almost all his NWA members lost their jobs, half of the AS members lost their jobs (due to outsourcing after they ousted the IBT for AMFA), and the last remaining airframe overhaul was shipped out under AMFA's watch from SFO?Tell us the truth of how the great and mighty AMFA protected all those 15,000 plus members jobs.

 

[swamt]

Read the dock plan. You are wrong. Outsourcing of a wide bodies and peak work beyond what the in-house dock capacity could handle was in the contract language. Did you read the CBA? Any work being outsourced is beyond what the new in-house capacity can handle, not take away more work to layoff more.

DWH is a mod/drop in facility.

As I said, how many airframe overhaul lines do all the IBT and AMFA represented airlines have?

How many times has AA and the TWU agreed to lay-offs, rifs and concessions?? For well over 3 decades!!

 

[1AA]

At least the TWU is finally trying to make a stand, more than what they did for the mechanics. They might as well just fold, exactly like they did with AA.

Yes they are because it is hitting them right where it hurts. With the membership they have no accountability to us so they can do as they please. But now the CA$H COW is in jeopardy. Too late Jimmy boy. As Trump always says when you fail to meet the expectations of your position....

YOUR FIRED!!!

 

[1AA]

Read the dock plan. You are wrong. Outsourcing of a wide bodies and peak work beyond what the in-house dock capacity could handle was in the contract language. Did you read the CBA? Any work being outsourced is beyond what the new in-house capacity can handle, not take away more work to layoff more.

DWH is a mod/drop in facility.

As I said, how many airframe overhaul lines do all the IBT and AMFA represented airlines have?

Makes no difference, AA will be AMFA soon.

 

[Overspeed]

At least the TWU is finally trying to make a stand, more than what they did for the mechanics. They might as well just fold, exactly like they did with AA.

The mechanics did get a letter as well. The IBT track record when it comes to representing members is not as bad as AMFA but not good either. The new UA agreement removed the outsourcing cap language that was there back when the IAM was the representative. At CO they have not forced them to bring new work back in-house. UPS has the highest pay scale yet they also have the highest outsourcing of work as well. In the airline industry the same is true when it comes to highest pay scales. Both AS and WN have the highest pay rates but also the highest level of outsourcing.

Yes the TWU scales are lower but we also have more jobs in-house. At all those other airlines represented by the IBT and AMFA those airframe jobs that make $35 plus make $25 or less at an U.S. MRO and in El Salvador (where WN gets a big portion of their overhaul done) they make less $5 an hour.

On a side note, a lot of these elected TWU reps who act more like IBT and AMFA organizers, recommended that the M&R group vote down a contract that would have raised a major portion of the membership to number two in the industry on pay. So when they bash the TWU for not getting at least what CO and UA got they are really bashing themselves because they were the ones stamping vote no TA books, spreading lies about BK being nothing more than a scare tactic, and that if we kept fighting under the threat of a strike (we saw how that worked at NWA) we would get top pay.

The facts are that the one group at AA that listened to the facts and voted in the 2010 TA (MCTs) are still getting the industry top pay rate they voted in back in 2010 even after BK; BK was a very real possibility and it indeed happened, and was anyone here really going to go on strike after what happened at NWA? AMFA got played there. They underestimated the company's resolve and how well prepared they were with replacements. The craft union loaded with professionals got slammed there didn't they.

 

[Overspeed]

How many times has AA and the TWU agreed to lay-offs, rifs and concessions?? For well over 3 decades!!

Any concessions that were made did not result in the loss of more than 80% of the membership.

Agreeing to allow more outsourcing when the majority of your work is outsourced, that's a big concession brother. The AMFA record of "success" is no better than the other unions on the property at WN. Show us where AMFA scored a major win under tough conditions. Was it at AS? No because the OAK base got shutdown and AS wasn't even in BK! How about UA, did you stop further outsourcing of all the airframe at SFO? No because it all ended up in Korea and China.

 

[swamt]

"Yes the TWU scales are lower but we also have more jobs in-house. At all those other airlines represented by the IBT and AMFA those airframe jobs that make $35 plus make $25 or less at an U.S. MRO and in El Salvador (where WN gets a big portion of their overhaul done) they make less $5 an hour."

Wrong again OS. The El Salvador maint is not a big portion of our overhaul. They are "restricted" to only 4 lines of maint per the AMFA nego contract. If we were still teamsters they would have unlimited lines of maint there as the teamsters had no such language to prevent it from happening.

I repeat, How many times has AA and the TWU agreed to lay-offs, rifs and concessions?? For well over 3 decades!!