AMFA getting it done

[comatose]

If this actually happens, I just might have to find another avatar.
But for now still being with the TWU everyones head is still neckbolt deep.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

C'mon all you fence sitters get those AMFA cards in ASAP. You will also need to resign an AMFA card if you recently signed an authorization card from one of the other "catch all communist collective type unions" as it will have nullified your earlier AMFA card. We need at least 50%: http://www.dcemploym...cedure-changes/

C'mon all you fence sitters get those AMFA cards in ASAP. You will also need to resign an AMFA card if you recently signed an authorization card from one of the other "catch all communist collective type unions" as it will have nullified your earlier AMFA card. We need at least 50%: http://www.dcemploym...cedure-changes/

Signing one card does not nullify another card someone signed for a different union. It's simple... we get enough AMFA cards to file for an election and we win!

 

[unionguy1]

AMFA cards still being signed in the TAESL building, just mopping up the straggler's.

Got another one today in the slide shop.

Kind Regards,
Harvey West

 

[cf6mech]

This better happen,.....I hope its not just another pipe dream.

 

[swamt]

This better happen,.....I hope its not just another pipe dream.

It will happen. The ONLY reason you guys are not AMFA now is do to the companies and TWU's padded list of members. They added dead people, sups, managers, retired people ect... You get the point. At that time the cmte was not prepared enough for the outrageously padded list. No worries this time my friend, they are very well prepared. If you read the post carefully you will see that they do in fact have more than the majority required to file. This time around they will have more than required to make sure it happens. I have no idea what those numbers are but I would assume around 60-70% would be their number to file with.
I know alot of you guys are frustrated with not being AMFA already. Please be a little more patient, let them hit their number they are shooting for, trust me, it's for a very good reason. It will not be much longer, hang in there. Also remember, when the vote comes and the possibility of the teamsters also being on there could happen. But if you guys want control of your union go with AMFA. If you guys want the "behind closed door deals" to continue then keep the TWU or go with the teamsters. With the teamsters you guys will get worse representation than you currently get with the TWU, but pay more in dues to get it.

 

[cf6mech]

oh don't worry, I have personal reasons to want to see the TWU gone,.....I've signed three maybe four times,....thats my point,.....hurry up and file. Yes I'm being impatient.

 

[Flying low]

Here you go....Only picture i could find was all the extra dues that it would cost us for the same contract by going with the Teamsters

No, that is the pile of dues we at SWA saved when we booted out the IBT.

Nice picture....

 

[Bob Owens]

I dont read it that way.
Here's why;


How could you ever get to "or more" than three if you need 50% plus 1 and duplicates between two unions cancelled each other? Only one party would be able to get 50% plus one without duplicates. If this were the case then even in a merger there could only be four possible options,;
1. Incumbant Union that has more than half the members from airline A
2. Incumbant Union from airline B that collects enough cards from airline B to get to 50% plus one of total
3. Intervenor Union that collects 50% plus one from combined group
4. No Union

Correction
1.Incumbant Union from Airline A that has more than half the members of the combined carrier
2. Incumbant Union from Airline B that collects enough cards from Airline A to get to 50% plus one of combined group

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

Here you go....Only picture i could find was all the extra dues that it would cost us for the same contract by going with the Teamsters

Hey, look! It's a picture of the raises the appointed international officers got while we took concessions.

 

[swamt]

oh don't worry, I have personal reasons to want to see the TWU gone,.....I've signed three maybe four times,....thats my point,.....hurry up and file. Yes I'm being impatient.

Extremely understandable sir...

 

[swamt]

No, that is the pile of dues we at SWA saved when we booted out the IBT.

That's the truth. teamsters love including premium pay for their dues, they are not a true 2.5x's just base. I know you know this but others out there that are wanting to teamsters, it's more than just your added .5x's increase. FYI.

 

[enough already]

That's rich:
"Bankrupt airline union memberships who voted out their original union, lost heavy maintenance to foreign outsourcing.
None have brought it back.
http://twu514.org/blog/2013/02/05/reality-check-2/

We did it without voting out our original union!!

 

[TWU informer]

That's rich:
"Bankrupt airline union memberships who voted out their original union, lost heavy maintenance to foreign outsourcing.
None have brought it back.
http://twu514.org/bl...eality-check-2/

We did it without voting out our original union!!

YET

 

[Overspeed]

That's rich:
"Bankrupt airline union memberships who voted out their original union, lost heavy maintenance to foreign outsourcing.
None have brought it back.
http://twu514.org/bl...eality-check-2/

We did it without voting out our original union!!

He makes a valid point. How many docks of heavy airframe overhaul did UA have before AMFA? 30 plus. How many when the IBT took over? One? Two?

How many heavy airframe overhaul bases did AS have before AMFA? One in OAK. How many now? None.

TWU at AA? 45 plus counting AFW. How many after BK? 30 plus. Will the dock number go down over time? Yes but so will those being outsourced. If there is a merger, the TWU scope language protects future work as well. That's the beauty of the TWU scope clause.

At UA/CO the IBT has no such language. The new UA/CO management has said they are looking at what works for management, not the union.

 

[WNMECH]

He makes a valid point. How many docks of heavy airframe overhaul did UA have before AMFA? 30 plus. How many when the IBT took over? One? Two?

How many heavy airframe overhaul bases did AS have before AMFA? One in OAK. How many now? None.

TWU at AA? 45 plus counting AFW. How many after BK? 30 plus. Will the dock number go down over time? Yes but so will those being outsourced. If there is a merger, the TWU scope language protects future work as well. That's the beauty of the TWU scope clause.

At UA/CO the IBT has no such language. The new UA/CO management has said they are looking at what works for management, not the union.

How many lines of heavy maintenance did SWA have before AMFA?
Two.

How many do they have now?
Three, with the Forth starting this year.