AMFA getting it done

[CIO]

swamt,

You need to do a reality check, Amfa is up to their same tactics of mis-representing the facts. The oppurtunity has passed for card signing.

In Solidarity,

CIO

 

[Kev3188]

Sounds good, but sometimes the members have to fight their Union to fight the company. Sometimes Union leaders forget where they came from.

^This^

 

[WNMECH]

swamt,

You need to do a reality check, Amfa is up to their same tactics of mis-representing the facts. The oppurtunity has passed for card signing.

In Solidarity,

CIO

I'll bite.

What is AMFA saying that isn't true?

And when you say that AMFA is saying something, who exactly is misrepresenting the facts?

 

[saywhat]

Sounds good, but sometimes the members have to fight their Unions to fight the company. Sometimes Union leaders forget where they came from. Any Union that agrees to Concessions for jobs is a company union because Companies will always claim that if they dont get concessions they will cut jobs, what else would they say?

I have no problem getting after your Union leadership to do something or voting new leadership in to replace old leadership. But one thing that pisses me off is one Union raiding another. Guess which 2 Unions like to do this. My guess is that you are a Republican and hate Unions except that you know you need one where you work. I've heard your type tons of times and wonder why Unions in this Country have zero power. Why, Guys and gals like you. Companies love the fighting amongst each other, you are making it easy to conquer and divide.

 

[WNMECH]

I have no problem getting after your Union leadership to do something or voting new leadership in to replace old leadership.

Good. Because they are trying to replace ALL the old leadership from top to bottom.

Replacing the union is the only way they can do it unless they were AMFA.
With AMFA you can recall anyone. Including the national director.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

swamt,

You need to do a reality check, Amfa is up to their same tactics of mis-representing the facts. The oppurtunity has passed for card signing.

In Solidarity,

CIO

kevin,

You think this up while sitting on the porch talking on the phone? (See previous photo.)

 

[swamt]

swamt,

You need to do a reality check, Amfa is up to their same tactics of mis-representing the facts. The oppurtunity has passed for card signing.

In Solidarity,

CIO

WTF? AMFA is not mis-representing any facts. Post what you think they are. And why are you saying The oppurtunity has passed for card signing? They are still collecting cards for AMFA, and the teamsters have not filed so the opertunity has not passed for card signing. Now who is mis-representing the facts here?

 

[xUT]

I have no problem getting after your Union leadership to do something or voting new leadership in to replace old leadership. But one thing that pisses me off is one Union raiding another. Guess which 2 Unions like to do this. My guess is that you are a Republican and hate Unions except that you know you need one where you work. I've heard your type tons of times and wonder why Unions in this Country have zero power. Why, Guys and gals like you. Companies love the fighting amongst each other, you are making it easy to conquer and divide.

Which 2?
IMHO, change from within in industrial unionism simply doesn't work.
Been tried many times with the IAM/IBT/TWU.
Just my 2 cents.
B) xUT

 

[saywhat]

Which 2?
IMHO, change from within in industrial unionism simply doesn't work.
Been tried many times with the IAM/IBT/TWU.
Just my 2 cents.
B) xUT

AMFA and IBT. Do you guys and gals realize that Companies love employees fighting each other? Anyone knows that the way to beat a group is to divide them and then it is easy to conquer. I'm not on any TWU bandwagon before you try to go there. You can elect people that will go to the International with the agenda of the people. If AMFA is such a strong organization why don't they go after unorganized employees at other companies? IBT is making it easy for Corporate America to get there way by raiding everyone too.

 

[Rogallo]

No sh**, Sherlock!

 

[1AA]

AMFA and IBT. Do you guys and gals realize that Companies love employees fighting each other? Anyone knows that the way to beat a group is to divide them and then it is easy to conquer. I'm not on any TWU bandwagon before you try to go there. You can elect people that will go to the International with the agenda of the people. If AMFA is such a strong organization why don't they go after unorganized employees at other companies? IBT is making it easy for Corporate America to get there way by raiding everyone too.

. AMFA does not go after work groups. The work groups go to AMFA. That is because they are tired of being under the ruling of dictator unions that does nothing to properly represent the specific work group.

 

[Anomaly]

AMFA and IBT. Do you guys and gals realize that Companies love employees fighting each other? Anyone knows that the way to beat a group is to divide them and then it is easy to conquer. I'm not on any TWU bandwagon before you try to go there. You can elect people that will go to the International with the agenda of the people. If AMFA is such a strong organization why don't they go after unorganized employees at other companies? IBT is making it easy for Corporate America to get there way by raiding everyone too.

Even I have a hard time arguing this post.

Well put.

 

[TWU informer]

Even I have a hard time arguing this post.

Well put.

Well hell there is no unity in organized labor. It is a business now, and dues and punishment for anyone against the establishment is the order of the day, Dismantle the AFL-CIO and stop the reliance on political campaigning and lobbying, stop making dues king, and let's all stick together and take our fight to the street where we stand a chance. You are nothing more than a tool yourself because you are an appointed leach that will not stand against what is failing us all so you can keep yours.

 

[xUT]

AMFA and IBT. Do you guys and gals realize that Companies love employees fighting each other? Anyone knows that the way to beat a group is to divide them and then it is easy to conquer. I'm not on any TWU bandwagon before you try to go there. You can elect people that will go to the International with the agenda of the people. If AMFA is such a strong organization why don't they go after unorganized employees at other companies? IBT is making it easy for Corporate America to get there way by raiding everyone too.

Ignoring the TWU drive at SWA?
All industrial unions do the same thing.
You know what is killing unions in the US?
Big business unions, under perform, over charge, then blame the membership.
The IAM taking struck work from NWA is just one example of anti-unionism actions.
WTF?
That's why workers don't want a union today and big business is capitalizing on it.
AFL-CIO is a "TOTAL" failure as they eat their young.
When your "UNION" fails to represent you, what other options do you have?
Sit on your butt and sing Kumbaya?
Unions need to change, or die!
B) xUT

 

[exs]

AMFA and IBT. Do you guys and gals realize that Companies love employees fighting each other? Anyone knows that the way to beat a group is to divide them and then it is easy to conquer. I'm not on any TWU bandwagon before you try to go there. You can elect people that will go to the International with the agenda of the people. If AMFA is such a strong organization why don't they go after unorganized employees at other companies? IBT is making it easy for Corporate America to get there way by raiding everyone too.

Really? That's funny when its already happened here at AA. The TWU has already divided us. They go to Tulsa to sell them this crap sandwich of a CBA and tell them lies about the line mechanics are out to get them and the do not care about them losing there job.

Our International leader, Don, just got rid of our locals, the ones we vote for and the agenda you suggest without the membership vote, so next time he negotiates another crap contract, he does not a problem with the line Presidents.

So let me ask you this, How do we conquer anything when the Union that represents us is the one that has divided us?

BTW, why would Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association go after unorganized labor at other companies?

This is a Aircraft Mechanics union. You must really work for the International, Brainless!!!

Stop telling us what we should do or not do if you don't know WTF happens here at AA and what we have to through everyday of our lives when we have to fight the company and the Union.



GO AMFA!!!