AAA ALPA Thread 9/28 to 10/5

[nostradamus]

Now that was funny! These clowns are grasping for straws!! This too shall fail like every other dumb XXX move the've made.

I gotta say it USAPA LIKE DOH IS DOA

AWA320 barely has 4 years with America West Airlines.

 

[BottomFeeder]

AWA320 barely has 4 years with America West Airlines.

Wait, He has 2 type ratings and 6000 hrs. Not bad for a 40+ year old guy on the bottom of the AWA list.

 

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QUOTE(Winglet @ May 9 2005, 03:38 AM)
I suppose that could be the case if US Air employees, like TWA employees, sign-away their contractural rights in order to facilitate the deal.
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BTW I've just finished my first year at AWA so I'm a very interested party in how this all goes down.
Nostradamus says

Congratulations on finishing your three years with AWA. No one can possibly confuse your wisdom, with greed now, could they?

 

[nostradamus]

So far the 3 main America West airlines posters added up have a total of 10 years experience with America West Airlines.

 

[exB717Flyer]

I've been on USAviation since '02, over two years longer than you. This significant detail is just as important as the one you pointed out.

 

[nostradamus]

Capncockroach,

Stop lurking, add your four year experience with America West airlines, maybe four of you can add up to 14 years experience with your airline, we can add junebug into it and may the five of you will reach 19. Just short of the average experience of one Usairways pilots. How could a Usairways pilot possible think that the nicolau award is unfair when totaling all your posters AWA longevity on this message board does not equal the years of one Usairways pilot combined.

Lawsuit, ALPA receivership, yada yada.

 

[nostradamus]

I've been on USAviation since '02, over two years longer than you. This significant detail is just as important as the one you pointed out.

Piney Bob has more years on this board, maybe we should let him fly us around.

 

[N924PS]

So far the 3 main America West airlines posters added up have a total of 10 years experience with America West Airlines.

So what? Maybe they have thousands of hours (perhaps even more than you) of previous experience with the military and/or other airlines.

Even if they didn't, experience is not the issue. However, I believe America West's hiring requirements were at least as demanding as USAirway's the last time they hired.

What's coming from the new lowered requirements, one can only imagine.

 

[nostradamus]

So what? Maybe they have thousands of hours (perhaps even more than you) of previous experience with the military and/or other airlines.

Even if they didn't, experience is not the issue. However, I believe America West's hiring requirements were at least as demanding as USAirway's the last time they hired.

What's coming from the new lowered requirements, one can only imagine.

Take bipolar medication, then review the history of your posts.

 

[CapnCockroach]

Capncockroach,

Stop lurking, add your four year experience with America West airlines, maybe four of you can add up to 14 years experience with your airline, we can add junebug into it and may the five of you will reach 19. Just short of the average experience of one Usairways pilots. How could a Usairways pilot possible think that the nicolau award is unfair when totaling all your posters AWA longevity on this message board does not equal the years of one Usairways pilot combined.

Lawsuit, ALPA receivership, yada yada.

....Oh. If you only knew, you'd actually pee in your pants laughing.

 

[N924PS]

Take bipolar medication, then review the history of your posts.

Huh?

 

[nostradamus]

....Oh. If you only knew, you'd actually pee in your pants laughing.

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As far as the pilots are concerned. The USAir(ways) pilots are working for a pretty much dead company, and as such no longer have any realistic career expectations. They should be totally stapled below the HP pilots.

Yes, that means a 30 year USAir(ways) pilot should go below a HP New Hire hired the day before the merger.

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QUOTE(L1011Ret @ Aug 1 2005, 05:49 PM)
Your opinion is near right on. Word has it that the evidence against ALPA is pretty strong.
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Exactly. Plus since the discovery process began...oh..about 6 months ago or so, it has recently been discovered that ALPA shredded over 250 boxes of related TWA/AA merger material - long after the lawsuit started. This will be fun watching play out.

It is RICO related (ie: ALPA, APA and AMR playing footsie), but as other have pointed out - the Feds have to bring that case.

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QUOTE(sentrido @ May 19 2004, 08:12 AM)
The thing thats annoying to me about his (320's) posts is that he writes about things like the infamous "painful clause" like he knows something we dont, but never explains what exactly the "painful clause" is.

The thing I like about 320 is he does tend to start a lot of topics, and this does keep the board going.

As a lurker I agree with your sentiment. And for the most part A320 is respectful and.. dare I say sometimes even outright "polite".

At the end of the session I find it is his posts I have read, and look forward to the next one the most.

Usually when I see a post by 700, or Kitty, Cav, Pit, et al, I know what's coming even before they clack the first key. Usually by reading the first word or two, I know I don't need to continue reading. A320 always keeps it interesting as well as "informative", and I'm thankful for his thick skin.

At any rate, I'll go back to lurking. Best of luck to the survivors of the UAir transformation. I hope you all make it successfully. It would set the airline world on it's ears.


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You are another slimy lizard who never had a father. You are a hypocrite.

cockroach worked as a TWA pilot he complained about ALPA above, getting rid of evidence. He decided to change his principles of thought when it met his needs.

Your integrity is intact. Good man.

 

[EastUS]

Even if they didn't, experience is not the issue.

What's coming from the new lowered requirements, one can only imagine.

"Even if they didn't, experience is not the issue. " Sad..as that would at least be SANE

"What's coming from the new lowered requirements, one can only imagine." I can actually, based upon recent events... I imagine it pretty well = a whole new wave of self-obsessed younger punks wanting to run over everyone for their own benefit = "Nicolau Strikes Back......the sequel to Seniority Wars"

 

[CapnCockroach]

Your integrity is intact. Good man.

Of course it is. Ain't technology great?

 

[Jetz]

I think TJ speaks of the truth. Although, more FOs I chat with are starting to think with their heads and wallets. All are somewhat reluctant to engage in a long war with the west that prevents a better contract. I for one will not vote for USAPA until I see what is offered by the JNC. I have been burned so many times before by all the Benedict Arnolds around here, that I am now starting to make my own decisions and if that means looking out for me, then so be it. Seniority as we know it has been changed forever and you little boys out west will have to reckon with that one day. My days of fighting are over - give me some quality of life and decent pay before I retire after a long hard career. I have been working a farm south of Raleigh for nearly thirty years and have not ever come close to experiencing the mental anguish/exhaustion that I have over the last 5 years here at USAir.

I discuss this with 90% of the Captains I fly with. About 80% say the MEC is costing us money by not negotiating a joint contract and that it is the MEC's fault we did not get any credit for retirement attrition (because of the DOH/LOS strategy). All I fly with agree that a new union is not going to change the award .

The overwhelming majority of F/Os they fly with and I talk to want to keep the operations separate.