VOTE YES !

[skydrol]

Vote yes so Don can have a boy to shut his Buick door when he leans towards the passenger side after eatin on our dime.

 

[DNTULSA]

Is that the phat don?

 

[skydrol]

Ok sorry but this is insane why oh why would anyone who has had some experience with this so called twu still be defending them unless they have a scam ?

 

[High Speed Steel]

I took a quick look at the system seniority list over the weekend. What I found is within the last 10 years AA has only hired or gained 826 heads in the mechanic's ranks. That is not good. No wonder voting this down will result in people with more than 20yrs seniority be layed off from Tulsa, with only a 5 year recall per the company March 22nd term sheet. Its very evident that voting no will add an additional 1,500 to the layoffs in Tulsa that would take it back to around July 1989.....I voted YES

 

[whatajoke]

The yes vote will only temporarily save those jobs.so why delay the inevitable
.

 

[skydrol]

You could care less about this contract you will not live under it. You are a a hole

 

[bigjets]

I took a quick look at the system seniority list over the weekend. What I found is within the last 10 years AA has only hired or gained 826 heads in the mechanic's ranks. That is not good. No wonder voting this down will result in people with more than 20yrs seniority be layed off from Tulsa, with only a 5 year recall per the company March 22nd term sheet. Its very evident that voting no will add an additional 1,500 to the layoffs in Tulsa that would take it back to around July 1989.....I voted YES

I didn't realize that AA was going to layoff 7000 mechs to get to 1989 seniority, unless you are using misinformation to scare the uninformed or weak minded.

 

[Supercat575sci]

By voting YES aren't we damning ourselves to lower wages for the rest of our careers at AA. In 2003 we gave up everything to save jobs, then we went into bankruptcy because our management said we have to be even with our compition, now we're giving even more to save jobs, aren't we hurting AA and our own careers by giving AA a fish instead of teaching it how to fish for itself. I think it's time for AA management to earn those bonus's by managing, instead of getting a handout from the TWU.

in the TWUs own Q&A, they say that we can't be compared to FedEx and UPS because they don't do AO, or to JetBlue or SWA because they have a different business model. ( ya theirs are successful )

Unions are suppose to negotiate for pay, benefits and working conditions, not to be a jobs program or a source of cheap labor for a corporation. So if this contract passes, will it be like 2003 we have 6 years of a bad contract followed by 4 years of "negotiating" then AA saying you have to take concessionary contract to save jobs.

I know what the goodies in this TA are, but what happens in 10 years when we want a raise?

Ok so lets vote no so we can negotiate for another 10 years to get what they're offering on this t/a

 

[High Speed Steel]

I didn't realize that AA was going to layoff 7000 mechs to get to 1989 seniority, unless you are using misinformation to scare the uninformed or weak minded.

The number out of Tulsa per the company and their March 22nd Term sheet is around 2000 or so, that would place the target point at around July 1989. That is if you vote no. Now if you vote Yes the projected loss out of Tulsa is around 700 but with the Early Outs, and the Stand In Stead's that number will fall dramatically, I would think that more than 400 will take the money and run mitigating the layoffs.....Vote Yes B)

 

[skydrol]

The number out of Tulsa per the company and their March 22nd Term sheet is around 2000 or so, that would place the target point at around July 1989. That is if you vote no. Now if you vote Yes the projected loss out of Tulsa is around 700 but with the Early Outs, and the Stand In Stead's that number will fall dramatically, I would think that more than 400 will take the money and run mitigating the layoffs.....Vote Yes B)

So take me to th article that says that plz

 

[TWU informer]

The number out of Tulsa per the company and their March 22nd Term sheet is around 2000 or so, that would place the target point at around July 1989. That is if you vote no. Now if you vote Yes the projected loss out of Tulsa is around 700 but with the Early Outs, and the Stand In Stead's that number will fall dramatically, I would think that more than 400 will take the money and run mitigating the layoffs.....Vote Yes B)

I pray for the NO VOTE so the fear mongers amongst us will be shown how trusting they should never be towards AA and the TWU again in the future.

Common business sense would tell you that the early out will be offered regardless of the outcome of this vote.

AA wants the early out to happen.

It is a carrot to get votes.

It will happen regardless of the outcome of this vote.

Why keep a 5 week vacation worker that wants to leave and RIF a 2 week vacation worker that wants to stay?

The object here is to reduce cost. And some items are used as bait but will happen regardless of vote outcome.

 

[skydrol]

You guys are funny is that you gt ? No language to support your claims.

 

[Supercat575sci]

I pray for the NO VOTE so the fear mongers amongst us will be shown how trusting they should never be towards AA and the TWU again in the future.

Common business sense would tell you that the early out will be offered regardless of the outcome of this vote.

AA wants the early out to happen.

It is a carrot to get votes.

It will happen regardless of the outcome of this vote.

Why keep a 5 week vacation worker that wants to leave and RIF a 2 week vacation worker that wants to stay?

The object here is to reduce cost. And some items are used as bait but will happen regardless of vote outcome.

Ok,so please tell me the last time the company used common business sense.

 

[Strake]

I pray for the NO VOTE

Says the Paper Tiger with 29 years of seniority.....

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Says the puppet...with strings attached.