US Pilots Labor Discussion

[cleardirect]

Uhhh, that's "tow the line".

Uhhh, NO!

"Toe the Line," NOT "Tow the Line"


by Tina Blue
August 14, 2003


I saw it again today, this time in a comment on an article on a political website. It referred to reporters who mindlessly "tow the administration's line."

Um, that should be "toe the line."

A lot of people who don't know the origin of the phrase picture someone pulling a rope, cord, or some other "line"--"tow the line"--as a way of working for whomever the "line" belongs to. Thus, if the administration has a "line"--i.e., a "party line"--then those who side with the administration help to pull it ("tow" it) along.

Wrong.

The phrase "toe the line" is equivalent to "toe the mark," both of which mean to conform to a rule or a standard. The Oxford Dictionary of Word Histories (Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 2002; ed. by Glynnis Chantrell) says, "The idiom toe the line from an athletics analogy originated in the early 19th century" (514).

The specific sport referred to is foot-racing, where the competitors must keep their feet behind a "line" or on a "mark" at the start of the race--as in "On your mark, get set,
go!"

So one who "toes the line" is one who does not allow his foot to stray over the line. In other words, one who does not stray beyond a rigidly defined boundary.

 

[CactusPilot1]

That, was the top dog of the night! Loved it Cactus!

Thanks...

It's nice to come out of the trenches for a while. TGIF!!

I promise, we'll feed the dog.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&date=20110520&id=13661187 OUCH! Jim this probably is not factual so don't let me and the B SWAN get your dentures out of alignment,

 

[A320 Driver]

Uhhh, NO!

"Toe the Line," NOT "Tow the Line"


by Tina Blue
August 14, 2003


I saw it again today, this time in a comment on an article on a political website. It referred to reporters who mindlessly "tow the administration's line."

Um, that should be "toe the line."

A lot of people who don't know the origin of the phrase picture someone pulling a rope, cord, or some other "line"--"tow the line"--as a way of working for whomever the "line" belongs to. Thus, if the administration has a "line"--i.e., a "party line"--then those who side with the administration help to pull it ("tow" it) along.

Wrong.

The phrase "toe the line" is equivalent to "toe the mark," both of which mean to conform to a rule or a standard. The Oxford Dictionary of Word Histories (Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 2002; ed. by Glynnis Chantrell) says, "The idiom toe the line from an athletics analogy originated in the early 19th century" (514).

The specific sport referred to is foot-racing, where the competitors must keep their feet behind a "line" or on a "mark" at the start of the race--as in "On your mark, get set,
go!"

So one who "toes the line" is one who does not allow his foot to stray over the line. In other words, one who does not stray beyond a rigidly defined boundary.

I stand corrected!

I like to research the origins of phrases, but I thought I had this one nailed...I DIDN'T. I'm in the YELLOW!

Driver B)

 

[Metroyet]

Uhhh, that's "tow the line".

Uhhh, no it isn't!

 

[A320 Driver]

Uhhh, no it isn't!

We covered this already. I admitted I was wrong...what else you want, my first born?

Driver <_<

 

[Pi brat]

We covered this already. I admitted I was wrong...what else you want, my first born?

Driver <_<

I doubt that will be enough for him!

 

[luvthe9]

For those of you that might lose sleep, I just want you to know that Chip Munn was released from the hospital.

I understand that the aircraft he was about to fly to Boston had a write up that the previous crew said fumes made them to feel ill.

Chip's co-pilot and the flight attendants didn't want to take the plane without checking it out first, but Chip with the backing of the Company. When they reached Boston, the crew was admitted into a hospital.

Chip was released but as far as I know, his crew is still in the hospital. In his website, he claims that they were faking. I guess the previous crew was too.

Where do we find such men?

Regards.

 

[cleardirect]

For those of you that might lose sleep, I just want you to know that Chip Munn was released from the hospital.

I understand that the aircraft he was about to fly to Boston had a write up that the previous crew said fumes made them to feel ill.

Chip's co-pilot and the flight attendants didn't want to take the plane without checking it out first, but Chip with the backing of the Company. When they reached Boston, the crew was admitted into a hospital.

Chip was released but as far as I know, his crew is still in the hospital. In his website, he claims that they were faking. I guess the previous crew was too.

Where do we find such men?

Regards.

Are you east DOH pilots just genetically weaker than the rest of the world? I understand mentally you have some trouble but physically too?

How is it that the east and west fly the same planes maintained by the same people but it is only the east crews that end up in the hospital? Passengers walk off the airplane just fine, the east crew goes to the hospital.

An east crew DH on west metal smells a fart in the back and goes to the hospital and the west crew flying the airplane goes to the hotel for their overnight.

Mentally and physically weak not a good combination. Good thing you guys are going to be gone soon. Both of you guys could pass out from the smell of the forward lav and kill everyone “on board”.

BTW how is that “on board” working for you? Not sure it is cutting through the noise of the rest of east/usapa cacophony of crap. Management may not be hearing you. Did usapa run short of those cowardly yellow neck weights? I have not seen very many running around the system. Lack of support?

 

[Phoenix]

For those of you that might lose sleep, I just want you to know that Chip Munn was released from the hospital.

I understand that the aircraft he was about to fly to Boston had a write up that the previous crew said fumes made them to feel ill.

Chip's co-pilot and the flight attendants didn't want to take the plane without checking it out first, but Chip with the backing of the Company. When they reached Boston, the crew was admitted into a hospital.

Chip was released but as far as I know, his crew is still in the hospital. In his website, he claims that they were faking. I guess the previous crew was too.

Where do we find such men?

Regards.

Chicago?

 

[mikey60]

Thanks...

It's nice to come out of the trenches for a while. TGIF!!

I promise, we'll feed the dog.

Probably ALPO.

 

[cleardirect]

Chicago?

CLT,DCA,PHL

 

[mikey60]

Uhhh, NO!

"Toe the Line," NOT "Tow the Line"


by Tina Blue
August 14, 2003


I saw it again today, this time in a comment on an article on a political website. It referred to reporters who mindlessly "tow the administration's line."

Um, that should be "toe the line."

A lot of people who don't know the origin of the phrase picture someone pulling a rope, cord, or some other "line"--"tow the line"--as a way of working for whomever the "line" belongs to. Thus, if the administration has a "line"--i.e., a "party line"--then those who side with the administration help to pull it ("tow" it) along.

Wrong.

The phrase "toe the line" is equivalent to "toe the mark," both of which mean to conform to a rule or a standard. The Oxford Dictionary of Word Histories (Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 2002; ed. by Glynnis Chantrell) says, "The idiom toe the line from an athletics analogy originated in the early 19th century" (514).

The specific sport referred to is foot-racing, where the competitors must keep their feet behind a "line" or on a "mark" at the start of the race--as in "On your mark, get set,
go!"

So one who "toes the line" is one who does not allow his foot to stray over the line. In other words, one who does not stray beyond a rigidly defined boundary.

Thx CD, I've been waiting for someone to correct that.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Probably ALPO.

Prater serves the dog ALPO in a Rice bowl.

 

[Metroyet]

Somebody told me the knitting bull grannie is only 48 years old!? That cannot be true ....unless we're talking dog years .