N924PS
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Yes, the experience of the USAPA NAC is clearly no match for Glass. He'll eat them for lunch with some fava beans and a nice GLASS of chianti.
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Yes, the experience of the USAPA NAC is clearly no match for Glass. He'll eat them for lunch with some fava beans and a nice GLASS of chianti.
Black Swan
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You might just be surprised at what Glass comes up with. Why wouldn't he top load a deal this time, knowing he will only have to pay it for a few years and then the real savings kick in. And he knows he has the numbers to make it........FLY!
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US Airway’s Pilots Sign 3 Year Accord
By The Captain, Staff Reporter, SafetyFirst online
Phoenix, AZ June 26th, 2011
Yesterday, US Airway’s and the US Airline Pilots Association announced that they had reached a new 3 year collective bargaining agreement covering the approximately 5,000 pilots of US Airways. In a press release, Mike Cleary, President of the pilots’ union said that “this long overdue agreement will bring the hardworking US Airways pilots up to industry standard with their peers at other carriers. We now look forward to working with management to return our carrier to the top of the industry in on-time and reliability”. US Airways pilots have long complained that their management has taken advantage of them for years, keeping them at substandard wages and work rules compared to their peers at other carriers as a result of their bankruptcy filings that ended over 6 years ago. The new agreement will end what they have dubbed “bankruptcy wages and work rules” assuming that it is ratified by the union’s membership as expected.
The announcement of an agreement seemingly came overnight, after literally years of negotiations that both parties had described as “non-productive” at best with each side accusing the other of being the road-block to a final agreement. In recent weeks, the frustration felt by the pilots over the slow pace of negotiations appears to have negatively affected the daily operations of the carrier to the point where passengers are “booking away” from the airline potentially costing the carrier hundreds of millions in future revenue. After a stellar performance in 2010 and again in the first half of 2011, when US Airway’s led the industry in on-time and completion factor the carrier recently plummeted to dead-last in on-time, flight completions and customer complaints. Last week US Airways emailed a letter to its frequent flyers apologizing for its recent poor performance while promising to fix the problems in the coming weeks. Whatever the cause of the operational melt-down, industry insiders say now that an agreement has been signed they expect that US Airways will again soon lead the industry in several performance related categories such as on-time. This can’t come soon enough for the carrier who has recently been hit with sky high fuel prices and can ill-afford a continuing significant drop in revenue as well.
The agreement still must pass a membership ratification vote by the rank and file that will occur in mid July, but off the record comments by members of US Airways management as well as union insiders suggests the vote is more of a formality at this point. The tentative agreement was recommended for ratification by the pilots’ union Board of Pilot Representatives by a vote of 9-2. The 2 dissenting votes were cast by former America West pilots who now serve on the pilots governing Board and voted against ratification in protest of the inclusion in the agreement of a seniority list that recognizes a pilots years of service with the company and has been a source of litigation by a minority group of former America West pilots. The two dissenting votes are considered to be inconsequential to the outcome of the ratification process.
(Does this intrigue you? Then forward it to your peers and get Onboard!)
The Captain
By The Captain, Staff Reporter, SafetyFirst online
Phoenix, AZ June 26th, 2011
Yesterday, US Airway’s and the US Airline Pilots Association announced that they had reached a new 3 year collective bargaining agreement covering the approximately 5,000 pilots of US Airways. In a press release, Mike Cleary, President of the pilots’ union said that “this long overdue agreement will bring the hardworking US Airways pilots up to industry standard with their peers at other carriers. We now look forward to working with management to return our carrier to the top of the industry in on-time and reliability”. US Airways pilots have long complained that their management has taken advantage of them for years, keeping them at substandard wages and work rules compared to their peers at other carriers as a result of their bankruptcy filings that ended over 6 years ago. The new agreement will end what they have dubbed “bankruptcy wages and work rules” assuming that it is ratified by the union’s membership as expected.
The announcement of an agreement seemingly came overnight, after literally years of negotiations that both parties had described as “non-productive” at best with each side accusing the other of being the road-block to a final agreement. In recent weeks, the frustration felt by the pilots over the slow pace of negotiations appears to have negatively affected the daily operations of the carrier to the point where passengers are “booking away” from the airline potentially costing the carrier hundreds of millions in future revenue. After a stellar performance in 2010 and again in the first half of 2011, when US Airway’s led the industry in on-time and completion factor the carrier recently plummeted to dead-last in on-time, flight completions and customer complaints. Last week US Airways emailed a letter to its frequent flyers apologizing for its recent poor performance while promising to fix the problems in the coming weeks. Whatever the cause of the operational melt-down, industry insiders say now that an agreement has been signed they expect that US Airways will again soon lead the industry in several performance related categories such as on-time. This can’t come soon enough for the carrier who has recently been hit with sky high fuel prices and can ill-afford a continuing significant drop in revenue as well.
The agreement still must pass a membership ratification vote by the rank and file that will occur in mid July, but off the record comments by members of US Airways management as well as union insiders suggests the vote is more of a formality at this point. The tentative agreement was recommended for ratification by the pilots’ union Board of Pilot Representatives by a vote of 9-2. The 2 dissenting votes were cast by former America West pilots who now serve on the pilots governing Board and voted against ratification in protest of the inclusion in the agreement of a seniority list that recognizes a pilots years of service with the company and has been a source of litigation by a minority group of former America West pilots. The two dissenting votes are considered to be inconsequential to the outcome of the ratification process.
(Does this intrigue you? Then forward it to your peers and get Onboard!)
The Captain
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swann you have nailed Clear.. He is a rookie with one thing only.. A big mouth.
Fodase,
My apopogy for not informing you I read aol's latest brochure. Well I read it and it was an absolute work of art, loved the colors and it broke my heart when I put it in the recycle bin but please keep sending them because I really do enjoy them.
Thanks again,
Bob
N924PS
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Sounds like the "The Captain" and Jose' Cuervo got together earlier than usual today. With enthusiasm......
N924PS
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His big mouth will have the last laugh when the Nic is finally implemented and you wind up his junior.
Well Bob, we are well aware most of you scab clowns have very low comprehension, that is why we use lot's of colors and big pictures.
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Hey Basicly Stupid,
Since DOH is such a sure thing (according to you) and the West spinoff is right around the corner (according to you), why would Glass have to also "top load" a contract offer to get it to pass with the celebrating easties chanting "ding dong, the west is gone"? Wouldn't that leave those junior '99 and later hires - you know, the people you all claim to care about so much - out in the cold? Heck, I'd give 10-1 odds that the Kirby would pass if DOH was in it and the west was gone.
That's what happens when you engage your mouth (or keyboard) without engaging your brain (or is it on extended vacation) - nonsense that doesn't meet the smell test, nevermind making any (as in none, nada, zip) logical sense.
Jim
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luvn737s
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HA HA HA!!!
More like this:
"USAirways today confirmed that that ersatz pilots "union" USAPA called a general strike at 11AM today. One flight was delayed getting to it's gate by almost 7 minutes, and the strike was called off at 11:07 after failing to garner sufficient support. Reports asked a pilot returning from the men's room for comment on the strike and he replied , "What'd I miss?"
In a related topic, reporters asked the representitive for the SafetyFirst club (AKA He-Man Westy haters) of USAPA for comment on the incident involving a east 737 in Windsor Locks CT where a crew racing to cut off a west aircraft ended up in the mud causing some aircraft damage. The representitive said off the record that "that was then, we wanna be real safe now".
cactusboy53
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Oh yes, we have it. Time Metro, Time......
What.....Time for you to make up some more stories? LIAR.
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Why would Glass come up with a crazy out of the norm proposal. If you guys want some pay scale that no one else in the industry has usapa is going to have to propose it not the company.
Looks like you missed my point. The nac is trying to get an industry standard contract. 20-25 years pay scales are not industry.
Tell you what. Give the nac a call and ask if they are even considering asked for something so out of the norm. Got to ask before you have a chance to get it. They are not even asking.
Enjoy your top of scale 12 year pay. Amazes me you guys claim to be in the industry for so long and understand so little.
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luvn737s
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BS is cut from the same bolt as Cleary (surprise!) in that he is petrified of a unified pilot group. Concocting a division that yields a east-only benefit is his dream du jur.
The east need only have their kangaroo BPR meeting to suspend membership ratification and vote in a DOH contract themselves. They can "fix" everything else later.
Don't put anything past this slimy bunch!
The east need only have their kangaroo BPR meeting to suspend membership ratification and vote in a DOH contract themselves. They can "fix" everything else later.
Don't put anything past this slimy bunch!
traderjake
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No "real" news of any progress so you have to make stuff up.
dariencc
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Not hardly. N924PS's knowledge of all things Naval Air is so great that he was one of the hapless early defenders of our forum's very own phony war hero, the legendary Nice Landing Captain.
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