US Pilots Labor Discussion

[BoeingBoy]

another chief pilot from america west felony

What - no court transcript to back up your claim? You know what that means - Nos is a liar. Go back to the corner in B.S.'s trailer and suck you thumb some more. When IF you ever grow up maybe the adults will let you come out and play...

Jim

 

[nic4us]

James Ray never worked for CAL, he might have interviewed but did not work there. fact Nice try though.

By his own admission he interviewed and went to a newhire class, but did not complete training.

Sounds to me like an underqualified guy who tried to scab to catch an early break, then washed out, even during a strike. What a complete loser. But we all already knew that if we watched him talk to the reporter during the CLT info picket.

 

[73320]

""Slated to operate under a code-share deal with America West, Freedom began recruiting pilots, mechanics and flight attendants in March. By the middle of last month Freedom employed 100 people, including 44 pilots, most of whom came from within the Mesa organization. Meanwhile, another class of 12 pilots began type training for the CRJ700 on Bombardier simulators in Montreal. Each month the airline plans to train another 12 pilots and 10 flight attendants–enough to accommodate delivery of a single CRJ700.""

Nice try. What did the america west pilots do about freedom. they were an alter ego of mesa airlines.

the america west pilots, scum.

Hey skirtie,

Looks like another attempt by the skirt shooters to deflect attention away from his own failings. It is astonishing that someone with so little contribution to AAA (perhaps only hired to cover the training float) in terms of LOS could be so wildly out of control. By now you are aware that your Union spokesman is a verified CAL scab, and your CLT rep was a Freedom union buster.

I just bet you buddy bid this gem didnt you? -


http://articles.philly.com/2010-07-27/news/24969803_1_pix-guilty-today-girls-softball-coach

 

[73320]

Your thoughts please jetz????

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I can just see you during your off years clinging to your seat........it seems that the heat must have gotten to you just a smidge waiting for your takeoff clearance. Stay thirsty my friend, you deserve a cold one.

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=162659

 

[73320]

Didn't a west CA and FO sue their own flight attendant for blowing the whistle on them for attempting a takeoff without deicing?

http://www.helpflightattendantcrew.blogspot.com/

yeah....classy operators. Real safe too...

cheers

Hey the sheepshagger is back from Scranton, I mean Sydney. Please dont make us bring out the gory details of the past to possibly justify your new found safety campaign that is a decade or two late. Nobody really wants to go there but I imagine exceptions can be made for you and Nos. You guys are a real class act and are the quintessential reason why the westies always wanted this merger, and are fighting like mad for all the goodies that have come your way.

 

[aquagreen73s]

How can AOL promise an industry standard contract, which appears that all of their numbers are based upon, when management says there is no way for us to compete in that environment?

Same way any union has done it - unity.

Especially, inlight of the fact that AWA has never had an industry standard contract.

True before 9/11, but not after. Several of our non compensation sections are still industry leading, even after all these years under C2004. C95 was a big step up for AWA, then we opened C2000 which was followed shortly by 9/11. That took a few years to get back on track but over all, it was a good contract. We were headed into the final stages of a joint contract in 2007 when that got derailed. Then USAPA came in and hit the reset button. What a mistake that was.

How can AOL expect me to give it all up and accept the NIC on the premise of an industry standard contract, when we all know what a battle that will be with management?

We've done ok by ourselves and we would have done ok in a joint contract had we stuck together.

Do I just trust AOL.... (who wants to put a guy, 15 yrs my junior ahead of me on the list)?

That's not AOL. An arbitrator did that using rationale that has been the standard in mergers for since the early 90s.

All this in the hopes of something better than a win on LOA93? easy decision for me.

The decision should be totally up to each and every one of us. The problem is, we'll never reach that point to even cast a vote under the current union management.

Since giving in to the NIC for an industry standard contract is a pipe dream that I just can't invest in, what does AOL have in mind to get through this storm.....

AOL can't fix this. AOL only exists because of what the East controlled USAPA has tried to do to the West and continues to do to the West. A solution can only come from the bargaining agent and the problem now is that there is no separate agent on the West to sit down with.

Honestly, what is AOL's plan......what good do they have to offer the East pilots?

AOL exists to keep the West from being steamrolled. That's it. But for USAPA, there would be no AOL.

I see no answers in this Mexican stand off and the AOL/USAPA mailings have no new answers or ideas. We will have to wait for the courts to decide, which management will delay as long as possible.

The reason there are no solutions is because USAPA made this an all-or-nothing contest. Frankly, I don't see anything happening in the courts. This will grind on for another five years unless it's interrupted by another merger. We'll see.

 

[Metroyet]

Hey the sheepshagger is back from Scranton, I mean Sydney. Please dont make us bring out the gory details of the past to possibly justify your new found safety campaign that is a decade or two late. Nobody really wants to go there but I imagine exceptions can be made for you and Nos. You guys are a real class act and are the quintessential reason why the westies always wanted this merger, and are fighting like mad for all the goodies that have come your way.

Agreed. Where was the "safety" outcry when the East was routinely killing pax by the baker's dozen several years ago? Why now...that their airline and recent safety record is universally regarded as among the best in the industry, is the fake union blaring the deafening horn of "safety concerns" without pause?

Gee. I wonder. Wouldn't have anything to do with saving face, getting off loa93, and delivering a fantasy (illegal) DOH seniority list now would it?

No. They couldn't be that stupid....right?

 

[dariencc]

Every time you post, I have a vision of a trailer somewhere in South Carolina, with a bunch of 55 gallon drums everywhere, with a pack of poor German Shepherds chained to them as guard dogs. On top of that trailer are about a dozen dish antennas, tha† occasionally swivel to catch an obscure and mindless message from out west. In that trailer, if one were to open the door, would be a man, wearing boxer shorts and a yellowed pilot shirt with 4 stripes. And that man sits in a swivel chair with wheels, where he can roll to a bank of a dozen or so computers dimly lit in a darkened room..............

.......above the row of computers, a single, framed, autographed portrait photograph adorns the wall. From it, a well-coiffed, distinguished looking airline pilot, wearing the shoulder insignia of a full Captain, casts his steely gaze upon the room. Biting into a pork rind, the man leans back in his chair and looks at the photo, a reminder of better days gone by. After several seconds, he returns to his work, but with a purposefulness not seen before. As he feverishly wheels from console to console, the man glimpses again at the portrait. Smiling, he silently thanks the pictured intellectual mentor, a respected US Airways Captain and business expert, best known as USA320Pilot.......

 

[767one]

Translation....

luv supports the usapa scab mentality, and thinks it would be okay for West pilots to get furloughed so they can come in under him and his scab buddies list.

We have figured it out alright, we are fighting a scab organization, you are a member.


PS. I hear the company has arranges 3 billion in new financing, and their future plans do not include the scab union.

Bye bye, mr top 400. Enjoy the early retirement you should have been given 6 years ago.

Nic,


Where is the company getting 3 billion in financing from? Are they figuring out a way to raid the employees defined contribution plans?


Regards,


Bob

 

[nevergiveup]

Nic,


Where is the company getting 3 billion in financing from? Are they figuring out a way to raid the employees defined contribution plans?


Regards,


Bob

Alpa has found a way to give them our defined contribution!

 

[No Land Green]

The AWA aircraft on the ramp in Sydney. Take notice that your evidence clearly shows that it is an AWA plane flown by AWA pilots. A true scab would cross a line and fly the Ansett airplane. Just like the usapa scabs wish to cross the line and fly LCC seats and equiptment that do not belong to them.

Thanks for the photographic proof.

Hmmmmm........So, by your logic above, the 2 pilots that flew a charter plane for Spirit during their strike are NOT scabs. Even though ALPA labeled them as scabs, yet according to you, they are not. I bet those two guys are happy now, no longer being scabs according to you.

Please tell me what "line" "usapa scabs wish to cross". Are we on strike at LCC?



Are you even a MIGS?

 

[BoeingBoy]

Hmmmmm........So, by your logic above, the 2 pilots that flew a charter plane for Spirit during their strike are NOT scabs.

That's what B.S. says and he acts like he has all the answers - crossing a picket line at one's own carrier makes one a scab and nothing else does. A picket line of the same employee group as the one crossing, of course.

I guess you and Nosum didn't get his memo...

Jim

 

[nevergiveup]

That's what B.S. says and he acts like he has all the answers - crossing a picket line at one's own carrier makes one a scab and nothing else does. A picket line of the same employee group as the one crossing, of course.

I guess you and Nosum didn't get his memo...

Jim

Webster's II
3.a. One who works while others are on strike. b. One who is hired to replace a striking worker.

 

[CactusPilot1]

luvthe9, on 10 May 2011 - 08:36 PM, said:

James Ray never worked for CAL, he might have interviewed but did not work there. fact Nice try though.

By his own admission he interviewed and went to a newhire class, but did not complete training.

Sounds to me like an underqualified guy who tried to scab to catch an early break, then washed out, even during a strike. What a complete loser. But we all already knew that if we watched him talk to the reporter during the CLT info picket.

He got shot down in Phoenix yesterday after KFYI in Phoenix chose to air an interview. As it turns out many pilots did not agree with his "safety" concerns and the station stopped broadcasting the interview that morning after receiving a few emails.

Apparently, they got the message.

Nice try, JR.

 

[Pi brat]

Same way any union has done it - unity.

So what is your vision of getting this unity? Let's say the west comes out on top of this before we have a joint contract. Do you think the hard feelings over the "clowns, scabs, thief, accident leadng" etc are just going to evaporate and the east will join the west to fight the company?