I came to Airways while other carriers were hiring and at the same time pilots took jobs at AWA--the IQ of flight deck wannabees have not significantly changed since then!
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US Pilots Labor Discussion 6/29- STAY ON TOPIC AND OBSERVE THE RULES
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I came to Airways while other carriers were hiring and at the same time pilots took jobs at AWA--the IQ of flight deck wannabees have not significantly changed since then!
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You did read the part about the PAST. That was then this is now. Given a choice there will be very few pilots that want to come to US Air.I came to Airways while other carriers were hiring and at the same time pilots took jobs at AWA--the IQ of flight deck wannabees have not significantly changed since then!
Low wages, separate ops, chance for a contract is small. usapa.
Actually i hear quite the opposite from people out there. Many want to get hired by US and only on the east side so as to take advantage of the upcoming retirements.
The East wasn't, but was the west? The BEST West offer was terrible.
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Sure! Attrition is the only reason to get hired somewhere.
Contracts, corporate stability, work environment none of that matters right. Anyone that thinks that the separate ops will continue forever is sorely mistaken. Or they can get hired on the worst contract in the industry. Does not sound real smart to me.
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But that is what you keep telling us. The east is old and leaving very shortly. The west is young and will own the airline. Now what is it?
Could someone be telling fibs?
Don't you have like 1000 retiring in the next couple of years? No contract yet. No contract in sight. At least a year or two if usapa can figure out which end is up. So all those retired guys will leave without a contract. There is no way to make that up.
Yep, but like I just SAID, not everybody!
Don't know if you ever worked at a regional but as bad a it is here it's a whole lot better than at a regional. Even if there wasn't the attrition people would still want to come here but hte point I was making is that with all the movement on the East side there are worse places to be. If you hate it so much why not leave and let someone else have your spot.
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US is a good place to build time while waiting for DL or AA to call.
The iceheads will teach them a thing or two about waiting.
I suggested something similar to this some time back. I proposed we exchange pilots for training events. Have say a dozen PHX 320 captains go to CLT, and a dozen PHL 320 capains go to PHX, for a couple of months. I even offered to do my AQP with EastUS. The posters here did not like the idea.
Which airplane are you on BS?
(the following is an attempt at humor, and should not be misconstrued as an actual accusation of Black Swans underlying motivation, although the fact that I have to type this discalimer is quite telling of our situation)
,cause I suspect you are looking to log some Hawaii time this winter!
FL430,
The company never accepted a DOH list. However, you are correct that usapa passed a DOH list to the company prior to the Addington trial. The company never responded publically to usapa's proposal until they testified in court at the Addington trial that the position of the company was that the Nic is the combined seniority list at LCC.
Also, I think you are reading way more into what Mr. Parker said in the PHX crew news than is actually there.
The company never accepted a DOH list. However, you are correct that usapa passed a DOH list to the company prior to the Addington trial. The company never responded publically to usapa's proposal until they testified in court at the Addington trial that the position of the company was that the Nic is the combined seniority list at LCC.
Also, I think you are reading way more into what Mr. Parker said in the PHX crew news than is actually there.
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Complete bunk, they never testified to any such thing. In fact, they testified that their were two lists and why the furlough was constructed as it was. Resorting to making things up, is an act of desperation. The CEO has stated numerous times publicly that seniority is the pilots deal and that the company won't express an opinion on it and its up to the pilots, its their deal.
Top Ten reasons why usapa would forward a tentative agreement with an unmodified Nic in section 22.
Number 10. Decided they did not like the smell of "unquestionably ripe."
Number 9. The "professional negotiator" says, "hey, have I got a deal for you"!!!!
Number 8. Disturbing pictures involving farm animals surface.
Number 7. Its all part of Seham's PLAN. (make goofy face, throw cue card thru window)
Number 6. Inadvertent miscommunication within the BPR. "You said, contact within an hour? I thought you said contract withNic...ol...au."
Number 5. What? You think I am some kind of Dave Lettermnan, or Chris Rock, or Dennis Miller? There is no number 5.
Number 4. After a profound revelation of the meaning of integrity,,,,Sully asks them to.
Number 3. Had to abandon DOH, when they couldn't figure out who was hired first, Captain Chicken or Captain Egg!!!!!
Number 2. Just to screw with Judge Wake's mind!!!!!!
And the Number 1. reason usapa would forward a tenative agreement with an unmodified Nic, "Acceptance".
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