US Pilots Labor Discussion 4/6- STAY ON TOPIC AND OBSERVE THE RULES

[Black Swan]

Let's see Parker has run not one but two airlines as CEO over the past nine years (longer than any other current CEO among the Big Six), and seems well-positioned to lead the 2nd largest airline in the world if this transaction goes through as speculated. It would seem that the stockholders, Boards of Directors, and capital investors who have poured billions of dollars into the companies he has run successfully disagree with you. Parker is the man for the job and those who have a say so over these kinds of matters (because they actually own or will own the company) are the only ones who get to hand pick the CEO of their choice.

"Run" an airline? This is the least respected airline in the industry. How do you continue to be a failure when you had two bankruptcies take everything away from everyone, then continue to do business as it was done in the past?And the results are horrible. Look at Continental, and even Airtran. Both turned around. A decision was made to work with employees rather than against them. Parker took the low road. This is a golden opportunity NOT to work with him, and force him out.He is going to get every bit of resistance he deserves from the East. He planted the seeds of discontent, he will now reap the crops. Time for the full page ad about how he failed to integrate the pilots, kept the pay scales in place, and took morale to the bottom. Write your congressman and senator today. Tell them how you feel about this management, and how this deal should not go forward.

 

[Ames]

I don't know about ya'll but I wouldn't be counting my chickens before they hatch. Parker has been beating the merger drum for so long, I'm not so sure if this one makes any sense.

Mercy.....United had a billion plus loss just for the last quarter. I'm not so sure I'd want to tie my tail to that.

That's precisely how the west felt about buying soon to be ch7 UsAirways in 2005.

 

[Ames]

Parker never called Cleary to even talk. This is exactly why DAL/NWA worked, and this one will not get East help. NWA DAL worked with the pilots. Parker, no. That is why he will most likely get the big page ad and the letters to Congress. Nobody in any East group will help this guy after what he has done.

Cleary is insignificant. I am willing to bet he speaks to Wendy, however.

 

[Freebird]

Cleary is insignificant. I am willing to bet he speaks to Wendy, however.

This merger wont happen. USAPA's greed has and will cause the UAL pilots to be against it. The best the East will get is the Nic award...theyre just to ignorant to realize it. It's okay, they're old and angry and thats what you get.

Keep restructuring Wye River, etc. placing the blame on the West for your incompetence and greed. Seham thanks you for your money. Keep losing, he still wins.

Sorry you didnt get to jump from furloughed to Captain either. Who's dreaming now? ABout underestimating USin CH. 7; you guys were done. Period. Too ignorant to realize that as well.

 

[CallawayGolf]

Time for the full page ad about how he failed to integrate the pilots, kept the pay scales in place, and took morale to the bottom. Write your congressman and senator today. Tell them how you feel about this management, and how this deal should not go forward.

Even the labor-friendly press wouldn't buy this load of horse pucks. Do you really think there is someone out there who is the least bit familiar with the pilot's situation who isn't aware that USAPA is solely responsible for the failure to integrate the pilots and to negotiate to get a better contract. The analysts and press corps don't even ask Doug any more about why - because it's plain as day that USAPA doesn't want a new contract and that they are far too busy attacking their own constituents to worry about what management does. By all means - waste more pilot money by taking out an add that removes all doubt that USAPA is an utterly deplorable member of an organized crime syndicate - or is just a laughing stock for all the world to enjoy.

 

[Ames]

Lakefield is the reason any of you have a job. Parker had nothing to do with it. Lakefield's mistake was not putting a capable man in charge once he and his money boys put the deal together. Parker couldn't merge two tennis shoes that match if he had to. Delta laughed in his face. And he sure as hell can't run an airline. Best pilot contract costs in the industry and he can't make money. Jeeeeez!! It's truly difficult to underestimate his incompetence.

You west folks are truly naive about this guy. Or simply just blind to what has been going on here.

This isn't about UAL and LCC merging. This is about beating the bushes and getting LCC's stock price higher. LCC will be split apart with parts going to CAL, UAL, Republic, and possibly AMR.

You missed your calling. You should write fiction.... or comic books.

 

[Reed Richards]

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/story/10722283/1/note-to-us-airways-fix-your-labor-problems-first.html?cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA

 

[flybynite]

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/story/10722283/1/note-to-us-airways-fix-your-labor-problems-first.html?cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA

I like the "absurd" part. 🙂

 

[CallawayGolf]

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/story/10722283/1/note-to-us-airways-fix-your-labor-problems-first.html?cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA

Just a bit of NC bias in that report. No explanation as to why Nicolau drafted the seniority list the way he did. No mention that this method was nearly identical to the way DL/NW pilots integrated. Okay, perhaps someone should post a link to a real story where the reporter avoids biases when reporting the facts.

Oh, and management is supposed to fix what USAPA doesn't have any desire to see fixed. Okay, sure. At this stage of the process management is forbidden from intervening into an internal union dispute. Besides, they have already resolved the matter at hand as they have accepted the list. USAPA is the only one who can't come to terms with the fact that the list has already been settled two years ago.

No matter what this reporter or any union spokesperson says, the only entities that would prevent a merger would be the stockholders and the DOJ. Finally, until either company formally announces merger talks, the union leaders should not and cannot be involved in the discussions because it wouldn't be public knowledge. All of this is pure speculation at this point. If an announcement is made, expect the union leaders to receive calls. Prior to that Doug or Glenn would be in serious SEC trouble if they were leaking insider information that could potentially affect the securities markets. It's not that hard to discover and report on truth if you leave your biases at home.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

NIC BIAS, check your golf score CALWAY ,the true bias is wallstreet, check the stock, not very optomistic about a deal moving forward! MM! And USAPA aint steering this ship, !

 

[hp_fa]

Finally, until either company formally announces merger talks, the union leaders should not and cannot be involved in the discussions because it wouldn't be public knowledge.

A Non-Disclosure Agreement could be provided and signed in order to get the union's leadership in the know.

 

[CallawayGolf]

A Non-Disclosure Agreement could be provided and signed in order to get the union's leadership in the know.

Should a CEO do this every time he picks up the phone or sits down to discuss the possibility of a merger before any of the business details and viability of a merger is understood at the top level? The fact is that neither Doug or Glenn has done this so the talks haven't progressed far enough to go to that step otherwise these union leaders wouldn't be crying wolf to a reporter. Besides, would you trust any USAPA leader to watch your $5 lunch while you went to refill your drink. I know I wouldn't and I certainly wouldn't trust them to abide by an NDA with a multi-billion dollar merger on the line. The SEC can be such a stickler with things like leaked insider information.

 

[Black Swan]

Just a bit of NC bias in that report. No explanation as to why Nicolau drafted the seniority list the way he did. No mention that this method was nearly identical to the way DL/NW pilots integrated. Okay, perhaps someone should post a link to a real story where the reporter avoids biases when reporting the facts.

Oh, and management is supposed to fix what USAPA doesn't have any desire to see fixed. Okay, sure. At this stage of the process management is forbidden from intervening into an internal union dispute. Besides, they have already resolved the matter at hand as they have accepted the list. USAPA is the only one who can't come to terms with the fact that the list has already been settled two years ago.

No matter what this reporter or any union spokesperson says, the only entities that would prevent a merger would be the stockholders and the DOJ. Finally, until either company formally announces merger talks, the union leaders should not and cannot be involved in the discussions because it wouldn't be public knowledge. All of this is pure speculation at this point. If an announcement is made, expect the union leaders to receive calls. Prior to that Doug or Glenn would be in serious SEC trouble if they were leaking insider information that could potentially affect the securities markets. It's not that hard to discover and report on truth if you leave your biases at home.

This article made it pretty clear- what we all know. You got a windfall, and are going to pursue it until it collapses on you. Time is on the East side. We have two big decisions going forward, and we are just going to wait it out. If the LOA 93 grievance is won, it tanks the merger, and you guys going forward with a contract.Then there is the change of control issue. This could tie things up again. Bottom line- your fearless leader Doug wasted a huge opportunity to give pay parity, and everybody else except you guys realized it. It was worth a good laugh for you guys, but it will come back to bite you hard.

 

[Black Swan]

Should a CEO do this every time he picks up the phone or sits down to discuss the possibility of a merger before any of the business details and viability of a merger is understood at the top level? The fact is that neither Doug or Glenn has done this so the talks haven't progressed far enough to go to that step otherwise these union leaders wouldn't be crying wolf to a reporter. Besides, would you trust any USAPA leader to watch your $5 lunch while you went to refill your drink. I know I wouldn't and I certainly wouldn't trust them to abide by an NDA with a multi-billion dollar merger on the line. The SEC can be such a stickler with things like leaked insider information.

Read the article- everybody gets it but WESTWORLD- the one spinning by itself all alone. You guys are real good at explaining away the 17yr. guy going behind a new hire. Your greed is going to be your demise. Doug blew it, again.

 

[hp_fa]

The fact is that neither Doug or Glenn has done this so the talks haven't progressed far enough to go to that step otherwise these union leaders wouldn't be crying wolf to a reporter.

According to the first reporting of this proposed merger the reporter(s) had been "briefed". If you can brief reporters you can brief your unions. Or is management knowingly manipulating stock prices so that insiders can make a killing and get out?