Oscar- Hate is Ex Eal. He signed the letter when he left. The Trump boys signed the same letter. They all resigned from EAL. How do you then go back and use EAL seniority? You veered off the road after he told you how it happened and blew a lot of steam about nothing when you don't get it.
Date of hire affects many things, including pay longevity, vacation, sick accrual, etc. What date of hire was given to the Trump Shuttle pilots by Airways management? I bet dollars to doughnuts it was their Eastern date of hire. Was this some gift from the kind and benevolent management team there?
The problem is I do get it. I get that your date of hire only has currency on your own list. In a merger, there are so many variables surrounding seniority lists, that relying on a simplistic date of hire is only usable when you randomly have lists that are demographically similar. In those cases you can choose almost any integration method and it will work.
Some questions for you. On the East pay scale,
1. how much does a thirty year A-320 captain make?
2. how much does a ten year A-320 captain make?
3. how much does a twenty year A-320 first officer make?
Give me the answers to those questions and I will show you how your own pre-merger contract that only the East pilots negotiated, recognized that status and category is much more important than longevity in determining your compensation. This was the scheme that East pilots came up with, not a senile arbitrator and not the evil Am West pilots in PHX. This is how compensation is done for pilots in this industry. That is why every seniority integration arbitration in the last 20 years has been some type of status and category or a ratio.
For a group of experienced pilots, with many years in the industry, how you all can be surprised by this is beyond belief. That is why your crying about date of hire and losing 17 years and all the rest of that horse hockey is just situational ethics. You feel you deserve better and so you are trying to take it by force from the West pilots. Call it what you want but in my book that is the biggest lack of honesty and integrity I have ever seen.
I know we are all supposed to honor Capt. Sully, but his testimony about honor and integrity during the Addington trial made me sick to my stomach. Trying to trade his celebrity status into a call for honor and integrity when every outsider that looks at this situation and sees the bullying, dishonest behavior of the East, is just too much. Just because Bill Gates has billions more than me, it doesn't mean I get to steal his car because I believe I deserve it.
As I said in an earlier post, you guys have lost this case, you lost it the minute the company accepted the Nicolau list. Whatever the Ninth rules, in fact even if the Addington case had never been filed, LCC management will NEVER accept a change to that list. It would make them liable for hundreds of millions in damages. It would violate the Transition Agreement that they signed. No need to sue fellow pilots, just sue the company who has bigger pockets. That is why LCC was dismissed from the Addington case, they had rejected the DOH list in total. They will continue to reject it.
I know you are happy with your separate ops. Be happy with it. Just know that your group's behavior has lost all respect from the rest of the industry. Probably doesn't matter to you.
