US Pilots Labor Discussion 12/27- OBSERVE THE RULES OF THE BOARD!

[HPearlyretiree]

You must be Doug's personal valet

He's a putz and most of the industryknows it.

Care to refute my point? How many days did US have left?

Any more cheap shots? Its funny, in a pathetic way.

 

[Hate2fly]

Lets' stay on point, because if this little funhouse shuts down or your Sub Prime Hub expires in the new year, it will be VERY relevant, more relevant than LOA 93. Have your fun with LOA 93 but the deal is this- your little laugh at the expense of us may reap some serious repercussions in the New Year.....I am dead on subject. If we get a chance to spin you off into ether, you bet it will become relevent. I don't believe you, I don't believe HP either.You all are seriously underwater. You would have to have bought in the early 80's to escape this one. We know it, Parker knows it. You guys know if we get the outside, and I realize outside chance of any LOA victory, it is GAME over. You will NEVER, NEVER get a contract. Over here? We maybe took 3-5% at max. Most of will still make $$$$ You guys are for the most part in the kill zone. You need to come over here, and we aren't going to go for it. It is that simple. You don't get the contract. Live with what you have, because it is ALL you ever get!

Black Swan,

The west is in deep water and sinking fast! Three major items have to go the west way to keep them in the game. If the east prevails in any one of the three it is game over. 9th/LOA 93 pay restoration/MDA.

The desert judge took them as far as he could.........remember it became a hobby.

Even if we in the east lost all three, we control how this will end. It will be over when we say it is over. Everyone from ALPA, Nicolau, the westies and Wake have tried to tell us what to do........guess what...not going to happen.

We in the east will always control the vote. Less than 3 years from now our massive east attrition kicks in and all east new hires will vote with the east for their quick upgrade.

Learn to live with what you have......that is great.

Hate

 

[luvthe9]

Do you feel the need to insult everyone else due to your own shortcomings?

The truth hurts I guess.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Even if we in the east lost all three, we control how this will end. It will be over when we say it is over. Everyone from ALPA, Nicolau, the westies and Wake have tried to tell us what to do........guess what...not going to happen.

It will be over when you guys will be begging for a job at Home Depot because you got fired.

 

[SparrowHawk]

It will be over when you guys will be begging for a job at Home Depot because you got fired.

Well what does it say about a person who would profess to gloat over ANYONE losing his/her job? The above quote speaks for itself, why should I interupt?

 

[boeingplt]

If the TA keeps Parker from using the list then it is also the TA that binds you to the list. You don't get to pick which ones you will honor.


Flip

The TA language, in this regard, is superfluous. What keeps the Company from using Nic is the fact that it is not contained in a ratified Section 22. The west seniority list is the west Seniority List and the east seniority list is the east Seniority List. Nic is not a Seniority List.

 

[luvthe9]

It will be over when you guys will be begging for a job at Home Depot because you got fired.

How's retirement going for you? not well I take it since you spend so much time here, pretty sad maybe you can hook up with Boeing Boy, he has no life either. IMHO your end will run this place into the ground before anyone has the chance to be fired.

 

[Black Swan]

Black Swan,

The west is in deep water and sinking fast! Three major items have to go the west way to keep them in the game. If the east prevails in any one of the three it is game over. 9th/LOA 93 pay restoration/MDA.

The desert judge took them as far as he could.........remember it became a hobby.

Even if we in the east lost all three, we control how this will end. It will be over when we say it is over. Everyone from ALPA, Nicolau, the westies and Wake have tried to tell us what to do........guess what...not going to happen.

We in the east will always control the vote. Less than 3 years from now our massive east attrition kicks in and all east new hires will vote with the east for their quick upgrade.

Learn to live with what you have......that is great.

Hate

Hate- after reading through all the crap, and I mean crap, for a month- it is readily apparent that these guys blow all smoke, and have absolutely NO PULL. It must be embarassing to go on and on, after your beloved CEO has the NIC on his desk, and just does not sign it! Can you imagine how frustrating it must be to these guys? All the stories, the bluster, threats on and on, and there is NO date they can tell you when this deals becomes their reality? Bottom line is this, and they don't get it! This was an ALPA deal. Was it ever signed? NO! They will go on and on, but it never gets' signed. Gee, I wonder why? They cannot get it through their skulls that an ALPA deal is not a USAPA deal! Just like when you sign for a Ford in Tempe, doesn't mean you bought a Hyundai in Flagstaff! Bottom line is this- it is all SMOKE. They have absolutely no legal ground to stand on. Ask them when it happens, lets see, it has been what 5 yrs. since this crap deal was announced, and it still has not been consummated! Ask them to give you a date, and time and place. It is met with blank stares and BS. They have NO power and they know it.

 

[End of USAPA]

How's retirement going for you? not well I take it since you spend so much time here, pretty sad maybe you can hook up with Boeing Boy, he has no life either. IMHO your end will run this place into the ground before anyone has the chance to be fired.

The west is desperate. None of them can account for plan B and that is why they won't answer the question - when will we see Nicolau- give us a date!
Delay Delay Delay. There is nothing the west can do to counter this and with all the anger coming from HPER, Luvn, NLC, Flip, this burns them up!!!
To bad they cant figure out this thing will never end because of they're greed!

 

[Hate2fly]

Bottom line is this. THis is FLAT OUT WAR. All the hollow threats are just that. Tell legal arguments to George S. Patton. He would laugh and run you over with a Sherman!. This is the bottom line- these guys can go on for days and nights about their integrity, their honor their whatever. It is all SMOKE. Ask them to give you a date and time when the deal is theirs, and they will look at you like deer in the headlights! They cannot, will not, ever, be able to tell you, because they have still not figured out that the smokin' deal they got was an ALPA smokin deal, and ALPA is DOA! New bargaining agent, seniority negotiated, deal NEVER implemented! They can cry day and night, night and day, the reality is they missed the train of a lifetime. ALPA was DOA when it came time to sign on the dotted line, and guess what? It never got signed. Ask them again why it sits on Dougies desk, yet never becomes reality? They know. It can't become law because of all their cries and whimpers, Doug has to sign with the ELECTED bargaining agent! It isn't ALPA is it! Ask them! Ask them! H-P Driver, LUVN One of you PLEASE, tell me when the magic day comes when Doug signs the deal! Tell them when you see them, because they just don't get it! ALPA had to sign the deal, they didn't, therefore you don't have the deal. GAME OVER! All the BS you reads is just that. REMEMBER THE BOTTOM LINE- THEY DON'T have the power they claim they have! Had they had it, it would have happened!!

Black Swan,

The westies talk about final and binding..........I like to think we are still in our extended attorney review period. We have been talking it over and don't like the deal.......looks like the deal might fall apart. Oh well s... happens.

Hate

 

[cleardirect]

Hate- after reading through all the crap, and I mean crap, for a month- it is readily apparent that these guys blow all smoke, and have absolutely NO PULL. It must be embarassing to go on and on, after your beloved CEO has the NIC on his desk, and just does not sign it! Can you imagine how frustrating it must be to these guys? All the stories, the bluster, threats on and on, and there is NO date they can tell you when this deals becomes their reality? Bottom line is this, and they don't get it! This was an ALPA deal. Was it ever signed? NO! They will go on and on, but it never gets' signed. Gee, I wonder why? They cannot get it through their skulls that an ALPA deal is not a USAPA deal! Just like when you sign for a Ford in Tempe, doesn't mean you bought a Hyundai in Flagstaff! Bottom line is this- it is all SMOKE. They have absolutely no legal ground to stand on. Ask them when it happens, lets see, it has been what 5 yrs. since this crap deal was announced, and it still has not been consummated! Ask them to give you a date, and time and place. It is met with blank stares and BS. They have NO power and they know it.

Can you give the the date that DOH USAPA promised becomes the seniority list for the new US Airways?

Can you give me a date for when the new bargaining agent gets us a new contract?

 

[End of USAPA]

This just in:

Over 100 cancelled east flights by mid afternoon today. WE MEAN BUSINESS!!!

WOW. When will east get their deserved raise? Contractually it is owed to us.
In black and white

 

[BoeingBoy]

When will east get their deserved raise?

Apparently, if one can't give a specific date they are desperate...at least according to...End of USAPA.

Jim

 

[Hate2fly]

Can you give the the date that DOH USAPA promised becomes the seniority list for the new US Airways?

Can you give me a date for when the new bargaining agent gets us a new contract?

Clear,

We will hold you guys right where you are in your position out west. We will do this for another 10 plus years..........you will be begging for DOH by the time we finish with you.

Remember we control this issue with our vote.........not some judge in the desert.

Hate

 

[Black Swan]

Care to refute my point? How many days did US have left?

Any more cheap shots? Its funny, in a pathetic way.

Who gives a crap? This is now. Tell me when you have the power to make the Nic happen. You can't. You don't have the power you think you do. None of you do, and we know it.