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TWU negotiations.........what?

According the TWU Local 514 leadership as of 6:26 pm, we are not voting today. When questioned about Jason Whitely, TWU was not aware.

Flash : Jason Whitely is a reporter for WFAA Dallas Ft. Worth.
I was at the hearing today. The TWU told the court that the members will either vote on a TA or the companys last offer before the union hearings (around the middle of May).

Tomorrow the negotiating committee will meet with the company to discuss the full text proposal they handed us last week. After reviewing the proposal and listening to the company claim they want a consentual agreement I had to bite my tongue. Here they are claiming that they are willing to negotiate while in the meantime making it obvious that they do not want a deal. When we reviewed the language we found numerous changes to TAs, in other words we had agreed to one thing but they wrote in something else and claimed it was TA'd, in other articles they completely violated protocol by completely omitting language (normally omitted language has a line through it like this ) and in others they wrote in concessions that were never even discussed or proposed.

Its amazing how they lie. Sadly they will probably get away with it. The pilots did a great job tearing up the companys, opening statement, they discussed how they had agreed to address those issues that were not consistant with the rest of the industry, but that the companys demands were far and above "necessary". The Pilots cited one of the first BK cases after 1113 was created that occured in Michigan where the criteria for rejection was clarified but Judge Lanes reaction made it pretty clear that Federal Law in Michigan is not the same as Federal Law in the Southern District of New York. Other comments by the Judge reaffirmed my position that we will either have to resort to activity that the courts have made illegal, but only for airline workers, or just resign ourselves to getting screwed. Nothing in what I heard today indicated that Judge Lane will be anything more than a rubber stamp. He has already washed his hands of how his decision will affect us. I guess he figures we will simply obey and comply, too bad he didnt look out the window to see the 700 or so protestors outside.

The Creditors Committee was the last to contribute to the opening statements, they said that they support the companys motion to abrogate the contracts, they also commented something to the effect that they want to wait and see what happens out of negotiations the next few weeks before they render a final opinion on whether or not the court should abrogate the deals. They kept referring to the contracts under the status quo. I assume they were referring to the fact that they may not support managements take it or leave it position on $1.25 billion in concessions and that if the Unions continue to be agreeable to address the issues where AA is at a disadvantage they may not support managements position, but I would not get my hopes up.

One indication of the excess of the companys demands was that they admitted that if they got what they wanted they expected to earn enough profits to pay around $360 million a year in profit sharing. They actually boasted that we could get back as much as 25% of what they want us to give up!! Well that means they expect to turn an annual profit of around $2.4 billion a year. Thats more than the entire Industry makes most years. Thats a 10% profit margin. Pretty much unheard of in any mass transit industry, that clearly does not meet the "necissary for reorganization" criteria however Judge Lanes comments did not leave me with the feeling that in the Southern Distrct Court, right in the heart of Wall Street, that such inconvieneces would get in the way of a good Labor Roast.
 
Finally!

Thank you...

If the largest local would be so forthcoming....
 
Finally!

Thank you...

If the largest local would be so forthcoming....


I was in attendance at a special stewards meeting today at the largest local and what Bob says about the company altering TA language to their liking without discussion with the committee is true. Imagine that! The local said the negotiating committee is having to go over every single word reviewing notes, current language, and language of the failed 2010 TA and it has been a very daunting task. They did say expect something to vote on in one to two weeks.
 
Bob, every swingin' dick I work with will vote NO on the last proposal from AA. The question I have is, IF you don't vote, will it be counted a YES? The reason I ask this is because several of my co-workers said they will shitcan the ballot.

(Reuters) - The union representing seven work groups at bankrupt American Airlines will vote starting next week on the carrier's best and final contract offer, with results expected before unions testify in a hearing on the airline's request to void their contract, three sources said on Monday.

American, a unit of AMR Corp, is finalizing the language of the offer, which features fewer job cuts than the 8,500 originally proposed, airline spokesman Bruce Hicks said.

AMR filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in November, citing labor costs that were higher than its peers. The carrier has about 74,000 full- and part-time workers. The company has said it must cut 13,000 jobs as part of a plan to trim its labor costs by $1.25 billion a year.

The sources, who are close to the talks, said the timing of the vote will yield results around May 14 before the unions make their case in court to block the airlines attempt to scrap their current deals. The sources requested anonymity because the negotiations are confidential.

AMR began making arguments in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan supporting its request.

The proposal would be sent directly to the workers, an unusual step because unions frequently bless an offer as a "tentative agreement" before submitting it for a vote. AMR has yet to reach deals with its pilots unions or flight attendants.

Ratification of the proposals by the TWU work groups would erase the airline's need to end their contracts.

A spokesman for the Transport Workers Union, which represents 26,000 members, declined to comment on the state of negotiations.
 
In all fairness the hearing was in NY.
I was speaking toward the fact that Local 514 was posting a reporters tweets from WFAA in Dallas on their website and then denying that anything was going on. The membership is starving for information and everything is top secret.
 
Bob, every swingin' dick I work with will vote NO on the last proposal from AA. The question I have is, IF you don't vote, will it be counted a YES? The reason I ask this is because several of my co-workers said they will shitcan the ballot.

(Reuters) - The union representing seven work groups at bankrupt American Airlines will vote starting next week on the carrier's best and final contract offer, with results expected before unions testify in a hearing on the airline's request to void their contract, three sources said on Monday.

American, a unit of AMR Corp, is finalizing the language of the offer, which features fewer job cuts than the 8,500 originally proposed, airline spokesman Bruce Hicks said.

AMR filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in November, citing labor costs that were higher than its peers. The carrier has about 74,000 full- and part-time workers. The company has said it must cut 13,000 jobs as part of a plan to trim its labor costs by $1.25 billion a year.

The sources, who are close to the talks, said the timing of the vote will yield results around May 14 before the unions make their case in court to block the airlines attempt to scrap their current deals. The sources requested anonymity because the negotiations are confidential.

AMR began making arguments in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan supporting its request.

The proposal would be sent directly to the workers, an unusual step because unions frequently bless an offer as a "tentative agreement" before submitting it for a vote. AMR has yet to reach deals with its pilots unions or flight attendants.

Ratification of the proposals by the TWU work groups would erase the airline's need to end their contracts.

A spokesman for the Transport Workers Union, which represents 26,000 members, declined to comment on the state of negotiations.
I believe its going to be electronic, and only cast votes will count.
 
Bob, every swingin' dick I work with will vote NO on the last proposal from AA. The question I have is, IF you don't vote, will it be counted a YES? The reason I ask this is because several of my co-workers said they will shitcan the ballot.

(Reuters) - The union representing seven work groups at bankrupt American Airlines will vote starting next week on the carrier's best and final contract offer, with results expected before unions testify in a hearing on the airline's request to void their contract, three sources said on Monday.

American, a unit of AMR Corp, is finalizing the language of the offer, which features fewer job cuts than the 8,500 originally proposed, airline spokesman Bruce Hicks said.

AMR filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in November, citing labor costs that were higher than its peers. The carrier has about 74,000 full- and part-time workers. The company has said it must cut 13,000 jobs as part of a plan to trim its labor costs by $1.25 billion a year.

The sources, who are close to the talks, said the timing of the vote will yield results around May 14 before the unions make their case in court to block the airlines attempt to scrap their current deals. The sources requested anonymity because the negotiations are confidential.

AMR began making arguments in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan supporting its request.

The proposal would be sent directly to the workers, an unusual step because unions frequently bless an offer as a "tentative agreement" before submitting it for a vote. AMR has yet to reach deals with its pilots unions or flight attendants.

Ratification of the proposals by the TWU work groups would erase the airline's need to end their contracts.

A spokesman for the Transport Workers Union, which represents 26,000 members, declined to comment on the state of negotiations.

I'm sure cooler heads will prevail upon what ever decision is to be made. Knee jerk reactions like what you just said is what got you in the position your in now and I'm not saying that a NO vote wouldn't be in order, but I'm gonna look at it with an open mind because it will not be good what ever choice I make.
 
For All AA Managers

Subject: April 23 Activities

Summary

This morning, the company made its opening remarks to the Bankruptcy Court at the start of the 1113(c) hearing. Included in those statements was news that the TWU plans to put the company’s latest contract proposals out to the membership for ratification.

The TWU and APFA also staged picketing events at bases across the country, including in front of the courthouse, to coincide with the start of the hearing. These actions were expected and not surprising.

As the company presents its case to the Bankruptcy Court this week, we will continue to keep you updated. You can look for a Heads Up at the end of each business day to recap major events of the day.

1113 Hearing

· The 1113 hearing began today in New York City. The company will spend the next week presenting evidence and arguments related mainly to the business need for our requested contract changes and the fairness and equity of our proposals. For additional dates as outlined in the schedule order, please click here.

· Our strong preference remains to achieve consensual agreements with the unions. Section 1113(c) of the Bankruptcy Code does not prevent the company and the unions from reaching consensual agreements, and we will continue to work toward that goal. In fact, we hope the Court process might help to facilitate agreements.

· This is a tried and proven, court-supervised process that is specifically designed to guide fair and equitable changes to the collective bargaining agreements that are necessary for a successful restructuring.

· There are plenty of examples in the airline industry where the 1113 process has facilitated consensual agreements and we are hopeful of the same outcome with our unions. To see the outcomes of our competitors during the 1113 process, click here.

· But, in the absence of consensual agreements, we must follow this parallel course in order to expeditiously address our onerous and uncompetitive labor costs.

TWU Contract Proposals

· It was announced in court today that the TWU will be asking members to vote on whether or not they will accept the company’s most recent contract proposals.

We’ve worked hard with the TWU over the last
several weeks on proposals that meet the company’s necessary cost savings and address many of the TWU’s concerns.

· We prefer to reach negotiated solutions with each union, but we are simultaneously pursuing a Section 1113 motion that covers all of our union collective bargaining agreements, including the seven agreements with the TWU, since we need to move forward with urgency in achieving the needed savings.

In the days ahead, we expect the TWU to provide
information about these proposals and the voting process, and we will keep managers apprised of details as they become available.

· Nothing about this process is easy, but we are hopeful the TWU membership agrees that the company’s latest contract proposals address many concerns voiced by the TWU, while delivering the cost savings necessary to our future.

· We remain ready and willing to negotiate with the APA and APFA, however we will proceed on a parallel path with the court-supervised Section 1113 process of the Bankruptcy Code as well.

· For questions you may get from your employees regarding the TWU’s announcement, please go the Workgroup Specifics - U.S. Based Employees page on the Restructuring Resource Center. Q&As are posted under each of the TWU-represented workgroups.
 
I was speaking toward the fact that Local 514 was posting a reporters tweets from WFAA in Dallas on their website and then denying that anything was going on. The membership is starving for information and everything is top secret.
The TWU only gets away with it because the sheeple will not hold them accountable. As always, we must rely on Bob to put out an update due to the internAAtionals lack of respect for their paying customers. I'm shocked that their minions have not rebuked Bob for his effort.
 
04/24/2012


Of those, 9,000 are from the ranks of the Transport Workers Union, which represents mechanics and ground workers. But the airline has reached a tentative accord with the transport workers that could save around 3,000 jobs, a person familiar with the agreement said Monday. The jobs saved would come from fleet service workers and maintenance workers. Union members will get a chance to vote on the new proposal.
 
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