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TWU negotiations.........what?
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Mr Red
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BOB had nothing to do with free 2003 B/K,we may as well be non union with that kind of leadership!
The INT should do the honorable thing and resign ! I think we could get Bob Owens to take over.
How dare you, Bob and his minions are protecting the profession. Notice how we all have our pensions, retiree medical, and not outsourcing any maintenance. Well at least OH won't have to work weekends and AA was able to keep $15k from each one of us. They are forward thinking dreamers, unfortunately they only read papers from August 2001.
TWU informer
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Do you have some inside information? Because everything I read AA is not going to bend on the 7 day coverage in Tulsa. I can understand why. And if they implement the 6 month bid system as proposed and do away with rotation, most, if not all high senior AMT's will not be working weekends.
It was the likes of TeAAm TWU Members, Rick Muillings, Kevin Gorremans, Kevin Thompson, Keving Hammack, Kirk Wells that were claiming we saved 10,000 jobs and three maintenance bases while defending the concessions of 2003.
Bob may have been misguided in his belief that we could fight and get better, but he has never advocated or defended concessions. There is huge difference from my seat in the arena.
When all this activity was happening at other Arilines, you and others were blaming AMFA, now your own union is tasting the crap sandwhich and you want to blame everyone and everything other than the TWU. Well guess what? It isn't working. In that last week I have heard from more diehard TWU supporters of the past and they are all screaming to stop paying dues, sign cards, or whatever it takes but they no doubt are blaming the TWU.
Read it as sarcasm, I blame the TWU, I blame all of us, as we are the TWU. As we will be the union that replaces the TWU. No matter what union will be at AA we will still have the same people. We will have Bob in a leadership position in NY, just like TULE will not see the need to bend on a work rules without AA going to BK.
AANOTOK
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Updated 3-30-2012
"We continue to make progress with the TWU and have narrowed many of the issues. Last night, the company presented proposals that made important moves toward the union, including outsourcing fewer TWU jobs. We committed to the TWU to provide a comprehensive proposal responding to all outstanding items by early next week and will continue to work through the weekend to meet that deadline.
Throughout the restructuring process, American Airlines has remained flexible and available and joined the TWU in many discussions, virtually daily. Both parties remain committed to reaching agreement, as demonstrated by the considerable progress made with many of the TWU workgroups."
"We continue to make progress with the TWU and have narrowed many of the issues. Last night, the company presented proposals that made important moves toward the union, including outsourcing fewer TWU jobs. We committed to the TWU to provide a comprehensive proposal responding to all outstanding items by early next week and will continue to work through the weekend to meet that deadline.
Throughout the restructuring process, American Airlines has remained flexible and available and joined the TWU in many discussions, virtually daily. Both parties remain committed to reaching agreement, as demonstrated by the considerable progress made with many of the TWU workgroups."
TWU informer
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You have no idea the backroom discussions that happened between AA Management, NMB, and TWU International.
Why does this matter? Because this was the leash that prohibited Bob and others from taking the next step earlier.
You are quick to reduce the prospects of change into surrender before it even starts. That is your right. But I think you are patently wrong.
You should begin to think globally as in "ALL MECHANICS IN ONE UNION" and stop thinking about yourself and your little world of misery.
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"American usually puts out its negotiations updates, when it has negotiation updates, late in the day. Friday's update came shortly after 2 p.m. Word is that American was responding to rumors floating around that TWU and American had broken off talks, and wanted to head off that gossip.
American, which has proposed eliminating 8,807 jobs of TWU-represented employees, didn't say where it might be able to pare back the furloughs.
Looking at its filings, we would guess that American is offering to save some of the jobs it wants to cut at the Tulsa maintenance base, if TWU will agree to let American operate that base 24 hours a day,seven days a week with full staffing."
Hopeful
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If this rumor were the least bit true, I would be absolutely amazed that ANYONE would object to working a 24/7 operation to save jobs...If people are more concerned with having weekends off rather than saving jobs, I would be shocked.
AANOTOK
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X2...but... :unsure:
AANOTOK
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Little Jimmy's response:
" Earlier today, I spoke with AMR Senior Vice President Jeff Brundage and told him privately the very same thing we've been saying publicly. TWU is committed to doing all we can to reach a consensual agreement regarding our labor contracts at American Airlines. "I also explained to Mr. Brundage that due to the thousands of pages of documents filed by his attorneys in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in an effort to tear up our labor contracts, we need to move our bargaining and legal team from Dallas to New York so we can respond in a timely and factual manner. "Our cell phones still work in New York, so does our email, and there is no shortage of meeting space available. Even as we prepare to vigorously defend our contracts in court, we will stay in communication with the company and we're ready to meet for as long as necessary. A consensual agreement at American Airlines is still the first choice for TWU members, because it's the best way to position the company for future success."
" Earlier today, I spoke with AMR Senior Vice President Jeff Brundage and told him privately the very same thing we've been saying publicly. TWU is committed to doing all we can to reach a consensual agreement regarding our labor contracts at American Airlines. "I also explained to Mr. Brundage that due to the thousands of pages of documents filed by his attorneys in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in an effort to tear up our labor contracts, we need to move our bargaining and legal team from Dallas to New York so we can respond in a timely and factual manner. "Our cell phones still work in New York, so does our email, and there is no shortage of meeting space available. Even as we prepare to vigorously defend our contracts in court, we will stay in communication with the company and we're ready to meet for as long as necessary. A consensual agreement at American Airlines is still the first choice for TWU members, because it's the best way to position the company for future success."
Mr Red
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Maybe that Pay cut will SHOCK you !You do know they will be unlicensed jobs that will be saved.Typical TWU/AA B/S
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2613758815486
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TWU informer
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I watched the video, and got the same feeling I got when I watched you and Bob on the vote NO videos.
It all sounds good but there is really nothing there, but emotional cheer leading, and I don't see where that 3 pronged plan changes anything.
I still say anything short of indsutry wide actions that get the attention of the entire Public and all Branches of Government is a waste of time.
Just my opinion.
At least you got your famous thread back to the top as it was slipping to near the bottom of the topic page.
