Spin, spin, spin...
Dumped cargo, realigning your strategy is not dumping. Should a company stay involved in a business segment it is no longer profitable in?
If realigning your strategy is terminating service then thats dumping. Spin away Chris.
The money in the retiree medical trust can only be used for its intended purpose. You know that and were told that by attorneys who know the law. The MCTs still have the raise they got under the TA, that was the point and no the Company did not keep the retiree trust fund to do as they wish. It is still be used to pay benefits to retirees as it is required to by law.
The monies left in the fund by whoever opts out of Retiree Medical can only be used for medical, not necissarily for the guy who gave it up though. Just like the Supplimental Medical, however this is merely another spin. What you are leaving out is that those funds are in effect replacing funds that would have come from the General Fund so the net effect is exactly the same. Its as if someone said here's $100 to pay for gas, but you can only pay for gas with it, is that $100 still worth $100? Of course it is even though its earmarked for gas, it still frees up $100 that you would have spent on gas.
Yes management will be reduced with outsourcing. Your point is? The point of your holiday rant was that the line got screwed by the base (line lost 100 hours of pay). Whatever Delta reduced cost-wise through outsourcing allows them to pay more to fewer elsewhere while still realizing a cost reduction for maintenance. You can argue each piece but reducing the total maintenance cost is what Delta did through outsourcing.
No thats your spin, what rant, I simply stated a fact. You came back with the claim that Delta traded workers for Holidays but have not produced anything to back it up. If what you say is true, that Delta did this to reduce their maintenance costs well why did they need to do that, could it have been because outside of BK we had already given the company SRPs along with a 17.5% paycut, Holidays, vacation, sick time etc etc? How much did Delta actually save by outsourcing? UAL actually increased Maintenance spending when they outsourced.
Really? Not true DOT F41 data shows CO (outsourced after 1983 BK), WN (grew fleet and AA route overlay without bringing work inhouse), US (which almost went BK in the early 90s), and NW (which almost went BK) prior to the implementation of SRPs.
The big three, UA, AA and Delta.
The CR Smith letter describes outsourcing at current practice. If current practice is doing 90% of your work in maintenance spend in house and your hiring and compensation practices are based on your CBA then yes you have to hire more people to maintain the 90% inhouse maintenance spend. Also, their is a proviso that under the Baker letter that it must be discussed with the union first to see if we have the resources and ability to do the work inhouse, all the plans the union came up with apparently weren't feasible without putting cost saving mods or grounding aircraft. If the "bump" in work was long term, then the union could have made an argument that this was not temporary and AA was outsourcing TWU work.
Thats your interpretation but its not backed up by the facts. Perhaps you dont recall it but we used to ship out the Airbus engines. I recall getting them ready and putting them on the lowboy stands so they would fit in the guppy. Thats under the same language we have now. "Could have made an arguement" is not the same as saying "they cant" or "must".
Don't worry Bob, your plan of reducing overhaul is coming to fruition. You will be able to get your holidays and VC soon.
My plan? More spin from a company man. How low will you go every time they say "boo"? Funny how you like to disregard the fact that we used to make more than Fed Ex and around the same as UPS even though they always outsourced their OH. Now you come here and say we have to agree to work for less in order to keep work. Well how much less? $6/hr, $10/hr? $20/hr? At what point do you say we are not willing to give anymore and tell them you are willing to fight?
The fact is you do not know if it costs more or not. The company doesnt seem to know. Sure they can shoot across an estimate or cite what the Timco pays their guys but even if they had a bid in hand they would not know until all is said and done where they landed. Tell us, how much did they end up saving on those Timco airplanes? Are they back in service yet?
