TWU negotiations.........what?

[Buck]

Around 1992 or 1993 when the contract extension was voted in, B-scalers went to a five year top out.

Oh, ok now that I remember. I was already at the top so I did not receive that increase to the top.

 

[AA89]

Around 1992 or 1993 when the contract extension was voted in, B-scalers went to a five year top out. I had six or seven years and went straight to top scale. It was a pretty huge jump if I remember correctly.

Yeah I was going to mention that because at my 89 seniority it was huge. But for some hired before or after it was a non-issue.

 

[Buck]

Don't know exactly where to put this, but...

An A&P mechanic here in TUL received a call from MESA Airlines today. The offer was wide open from mechanic to inspection and even some form of engine management position. The wage is around $ 20/hr. Part of the offer included Hawaii with a +$8.00 increase.

The lady in their HR department asked about the layoffs and then said those will be in April, right? Of course no one here really knows because it is a secret.

Another issue, I am not totally familiar with the Aircraft Cleaner staffing here at TUL, but we are having problems getting the aircraft cleaned. There are not many left.

 

[777 fixer]

The wage is around $ 20/hr. Part of the offer included Hawaii with a +$8.00 increase.

$28 an hour in Hawaii, works if you have three roomates who are also making $28 an hour.

 

[Birdman]

I don't understand why more MRO's are not holding job fairs in Tulsa like AAR. It will be interesting to see what they have to offer.

 

[Buck]

$28 an hour in Hawaii, works if you have three roomates who are also making $28 an hour.

Or a spouse making $30+

 

[TWU informer]

Or a spouse making $30+

"VOTE NO! We are leaving money on the table and retro is still on the table.
We cannot keep saying we'll get 'em next time. We must get 'em now!"
Bob Owens 2010

 

[Zom JFK]

"VOTE NO! We are leaving money on the table and retro is still on the table.
We cannot keep saying we'll get 'em next time. We must get 'em now!"
Bob Owens 2010

Wow dude give it up. you really sound like a broken record. So Bob Owens wanted to stand up to the company and you didn't, let it go.

 

[Buck]

Wow dude give it up. you really sound like a broken record. So Bob Owens wanted to stand up to the company and you didn't, let it go.

No, Bob Owens was attempting to apply old style unionism to negotiations and the company was not afraid. If those represented by the TWU would have negotiated separate contracts, the company could have achieved their goals. Now some in the work groups are in the position of getting laid off. The old style walk out does not work anywhere anymore

 

[Tex-Mech]

I don't understand why more MRO's are not holding job fairs in Tulsa like AAR. It will be interesting to see what they have to offer.

Remember job fairs are only held in KC, and they must include jobs for struck airlines like the scab fair they had a few years back.

 

[BigMac]

Another issue, I am not totally familiar with the Aircraft Cleaner staffing here at TUL, but we are having problems getting the aircraft cleaned. There are not many left.

I went over to Hangar 2A and talked to some A/C cleaners. They said some cleaners had quit and they are having to get labor loans to wash aircraft. They were told that it would be a good idea to look for a new job per their manager B.Pike and supervision. A/C cleaners are disgruntled and said they have time limits washing aircract. Management said its best just to write up DWMS on cleaning items in the hangar rather than washing it completely on the wrack. QA is also getting lax at what is required of the aircraft to be clean or presentable.

 

[Birdman]

Remember job fairs are only held in KC, and they must include jobs for struck airlines like the scab fair they had a few years back.

It would be difficult without the TWU volunteers since they are keeping a very low profile.

 

[Buck]

I went over to Hangar 2A and talked to some A/C cleaners. They said some cleaners had quit and they are having to get labor loans to wash aircraft. They were told that it would be a good idea to look for a new job per their manager B.Pike and supervision. A/C cleaners are disgruntled and said they have time limits washing aircract. Management said its best just to write up DWMS on cleaning items in the hangar rather than washing it completely on the wrack. QA is also getting lax at what is required of the aircraft to be clean or presentable.

The inspection department wrote up numerous connectors in the wheel wells and on the wings as corrosion when it was just grime, fluids and weathering. This caused at least 10x the number of write ups in DWMS.

 

[TulsaTurd]

Remember job fairs are only held in KC, and they must include jobs for struck airlines like the scab fair they had a few years back.

Tex-Mess, are you insinuating the KC folks are scabs?

 

[Tex-Mech]

Tex-Mess, are you insinuating the KC folks are scabs?

Not at all. If you don't know the story, about the same time that NWA mechanics were going on strike years back, the local in KC held a job fair at the base that had recruiters who were looking for scabs at NWA.