TWU negotiations.........what?

[Chuck Schalk]

So much for waiting on the Democrats to help! Follow the money to the true loyalty.


Why does a routine FAA spending bill include harsh anti-union language, making it harder for transportation workers to organize?



The Republican strategy on Capitol Hill of legislating through hostage taking worked yesterday - and now unions are screwed. House Republicans demanded that a routine FAA spending bill include harsh anti-union language that makes it harder for transportation workers to organize. The change raises the threshold for seeking a union from 35% to 50% for transportation workers - and Republican basically said if Democrats don't agree to it then they'll shut down the FAA again - just like they did last year.



Yesterday - despite 19 labor organizations writing a letter to Democrats calling on them to oppose the bill - Democrats caved. A majority of Senate Democrats helped pass the bill and new anti-union law for transportation workers by a 75-20 vote. As a letter from the Communication Workers of America read, "Rewarding the House Republican Leadership's desire to rewrite decades of long standing labor law in a flash by inserting an unrelated and controversial labor provision...sets an extremely dangerous precedent."



Indeed it does - unfortunately - it's been all too common in this 112th Congress - paid for by over $300 million dollars in corporate spending.

 

[Mr Red]

I thought the new rule is that 51% of membership voting yes is required,and the people not voting are no longer counted as no votes.
If that is the case I thinks its fair .

 

[JABORD]

Apparently the powers at be felt it was a threat in it's current form so they needed to hold the FAA dollars hostage to change it and make it more difficult for you to choose your Union affiliation.

 

[Buck]

I thought the new rule is that 51% of membership voting yes is required,and the people not voting are no longer counted as no votes.
If that is the case I thinks its fair .

Fair to who? The TWU is part of the problem, by design. One group is being used as a tool for the betterment of all the others. Instead of worrying what Congress is doing, are energies need to concentrate on the repair of the mechanic craft and class.

 

[Mr Red]

Fair to who? The TWU is part of the problem, by design. One group is being used as a tool for the betterment of all the others. Instead of worrying what Congress is doing, are energies need to concentrate on the repair of the mechanic craft and class.

All it would take is legislation that all US Commercial A/C are maintained to all existing FAA regulations regardless of Country.
Oh I forgot that would go against the Union Busting and Economic Treason thats been happening since the 80s.
That giant sucking sound is alive and well!!

 

[Buck]

All it would take is legislation that all US Commercial A/C are maintained to all existing FAA regulations regardless of Country.
Oh I forgot that would go against the Union Busting and Economic Treason thats been happening since the 80s.
That giant sucking sound is alive and well!!

Union busting has been around as long as unions.

What is your position on Industrial Unionism versus Craft Unionism?

 

[Mr Red]

Union busting has been around as long as unions.

What is your position on Industrial Unionism versus Craft Unionism?

Can't compete with Chinese Wages period !!!

 

[Buck]

Can't compete with Chinese Wages period !!!

Chinese wages?

Maybe in the Chinese economic system.

Do they Chinese A&P equivalent, make a comparable wage in the own backyard?

 

[Chuck Schalk]

The beatings will continue until morale improves!

 

[Chuck Schalk]

a point to ponder.
after the negotiations are done, anyone that thinks that your daily work life is not going to change is foolish. The language changes in the agreement will empower management with more rights to direct the workforce as they see it. There will be many more of "they can do that" built into the new contract and the days of internet row and TV will be over. then what? I hope everyone is smart enough to realize that this time around everything is scheduled to change so don't wait till it happens,act surprised and start yelling amongst yourselves.

 

[dfw gen]

anybody hear what our response to the "ask" is? word is there was a teleconference/strategy session last night anything come out of it?

 

[paul1]

town hall meeting for feb13 thats the only word I have heard. as always stay on informed. try the afpa.org click hot line update. aa.twu.org besides that nothing h34r:

 

[Just the Facts II]

a point to ponder.
after the negotiations are done, anyone that thinks that your daily work life is not going to change is foolish. The language changes in the agreement will empower management with more rights to direct the workforce as they see it. There will be many more of "they can do that" built into the new contract and the days of internet row and TV will be over. then what? I hope everyone is smart enough to realize that this time around everything is scheduled to change so don't wait till it happens,act surprised and start yelling amongst yourselves.

Best advice I've seen on this board in quite some time. Things will definitely change one way or another.

 

[Buster CRC]

According to the apfa hotline all unions meeting with NMB this morning then with company this afternoon to begin negotiations.

 

[The End]

The Presidents Council took the time for negotiating training. Is this suppose to make us feel like they really have a say in contract negotiations? For anyone to think it does, is misinformed! [The TWU International encouraged the concessions of 2003 and now they act like they don't know what we need. The Presidents Council does not need training, they need the TWU International to demand our contract back and lead the membership into battle. But that won't happen, The TWU will hide behind the Presidents Council and blame everything on the Negotiating Committee and the members because they were trained. Even though the Negotiating Committee or the members do not own the contract. Meaning that Jim Little and Gary Yingst have to sign off on the contract not the Negotiating Committee. That is why the negotiating Committee are labeled as only witnesses to the contract( look in your contract book).
The TWU is so entrenched with the company that it is difficult to tell which represents us. This whole project of opening the contract early is a farse. The contract in my opinion has been already discussed and the needs are set awaiting for the games to begin in November. We are mere pawns in this game and the earlier you realize it, the better off you will be to accept your predetermined fate. If the TWU International is just a shadow of the company, then why do we need the TWU International in the Air Transport Division? Anyone can do what the company requests. Remember, the TWU ATD did not support any strikes, bankruptcy, or abrogation of contracts with any real teeth. Talk is just talk! Some were non AFL/CIO and some were AFL/CIO members! To me what is the difference if it will affect us down the road? What is the ATD Purpose if they didn't try to protect our industry!
Negotiations is not what it seems!

What you need to realize is that the TWU is only looking out for the TWU not it's membership. They will do what ever it takes to keep the maximum amount of dues coming in. A business is a business. Good luck to you all. The End