TWU negotiations.........what?
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yea you mean like when kane wants to talk to top AA guys and are chairmen, without you.
its sad the company regresses and kane sees it as are fault
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TWU informer
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The unlimited outsource scope modification proposal by AA, with the reduction in force protection is catering to the Line AMT.
All it would take after ratification is an early retirement package and presto the overhaul majority will be gone.
Retirements with outsource equals bye bye OH.
Then the next negotiations, the complete gutting of overhaul will take place with the then blessed line majority finally getting their due and overhaul or what is left of it will then be full blown MRO standards.
I hope in the end you guys enjoy your wealth obtained at the expense of others.
And then anually you can still go rally against corporate greed. And you can tell your grandchildren that you saved the profession at the expense of a huge number of overhaul base unionized jobs.
Did you guys get Sam Cirri intoxicated or does he just not care about overhaul AMT jobs?
All it would take after ratification is an early retirement package and presto the overhaul majority will be gone.
Retirements with outsource equals bye bye OH.
Then the next negotiations, the complete gutting of overhaul will take place with the then blessed line majority finally getting their due and overhaul or what is left of it will then be full blown MRO standards.
I hope in the end you guys enjoy your wealth obtained at the expense of others.
And then anually you can still go rally against corporate greed. And you can tell your grandchildren that you saved the profession at the expense of a huge number of overhaul base unionized jobs.
Did you guys get Sam Cirri intoxicated or does he just not care about overhaul AMT jobs?
I guess the thought could be that this contract will be another 2 to 3 years away, 6 year contract, and then the next contract will be at least seven years of negotiating all over again. Most people could retire with another 16 years before that contract is up.
odie01
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Is Sam Cirri a Fleet Service Clerk? How did a fleet service clerk get voted in as president of a maintenance base?
Tex-Mech
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Easy to do, you just load up the ballot with candidates and dilute the vote. Sought of like the ballot at 565 with 4 running for president,
everyone is in the same boat and going no where fast!!!!!!!!!!!!
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odie01
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That's right Paul, and with your labor friendly president not wanting to make waves in the current economic enviorment, webe screwed, even though air travel is increasing, along with ticket prices, and extra fees.
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Informer, you're assuming OH will be sold out by the line. OH still has the majority vs. line. From what I read of the TA, the COMPANY wants the changes to the bases.
I do not wish to see ANY current mechanics screwed more than we already have been.
OH has always been the majority, and let's be realistic, over the years many a contract has been voted in by overwhelming OH votes. That's democracy, the majority rules.
It is not line maintenance pushing for the decimation of OH so we can "get our due." IT IS THE COMPANY!
Inevitably, the international will partner with the company in getting the changes the company wants...And then we ALL lose!
Informer, you're assuming OH will be sold out by the line. OH still has the majority vs. line. From what I read of the TA, the COMPANY wants the changes to the bases.
I do not wish to see ANY current mechanics screwed more than we already have been.
OH has always been the majority, and let's be realistic, over the years many a contract has been voted in by overwhelming OH votes. That's democracy, the majority rules.
It is not line maintenance pushing for the decimation of OH so we can "get our due." IT IS THE COMPANY!
Inevitably, the international will partner with the company in getting the changes the company wants...And then we ALL lose!
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<_< -------- To get this off point, I believe the only way your going to get this done, is for the AMP people to put more pressure on Mr.Little and Company. I understand you don't want to show your hand prematurely, but if they filed, it would be a game changer!------- And by using people like Bob as their point men in negotiations, it's taking some of the heat off the TWU, while still keeping a leash on him, and hopefully the AMP card drive!
correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure someone will). The AMP drive has been going on for over a year or very close to it. There was this great up roar over the rejected T/A.
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AMP has very little money. Tulsa is not on board with AMP. Tulsa votes in a fleet service clerk. A couple of guys running for Pres. in Tulsa can't get elected and become big AMP guys, but really wanted to be TWU guys. If AMP was going to file ,it would have been done long ago and they know it!
Jim is dealing with the company behind are backs( so is the rumor), and Bob has been set up to fail. The nmb sees things going no where has closed door meeting with TWU co-chair and co. What really happen in that meeting? Company regresses on contract offer, Arpey and his Buddy's gets there bonus. NMB appears to be on company side. Almost every airline has open contracts in one way or another and no one is getting a deal done. Why the economy, and we can rant a rave demand this and that, but we all still go to work everyday, and I don't see anyone running for the door to get out.
The only possible way to maybe pressure the company is for everyone to turn down O/T including Tulsa six and seven day guys. And that is never going to happen I remember in 2003 and for a couple of years after that, at ORD we turned down O/T and F/T. Only to find out plenty of other stations working O/T and F/T
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<_< ------ Well, that's your spin on it!--------- Time will be the Judge!!! ------ It all boils down to if the membership has the balls to see this through now doesn't it!!!? :huh:
no its about being released and thats not going to happen. for what ever reasons
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Paul, what you mentioned here is AA's perfect world. The company is continuing to enjoy 17.5% in labor cost savings; A pro-company labor organization (TWU) that is very sympathetic to keeping the status quo, even if that means hurting it's own membership; A negotiating committee that is very wishy-washy, and one that continuously changes OUR proposals to appease management's desire for continued concessions; a workforce that talks big, but is also content with the status quo.....very liberal CS policy, work shifts that seniority will not provide, and a group that continuously complains about our stalled negotiations with AA, but doesn't have the nads to do anything about it.
Now, if you were the company.....give me a compelling arguement on why AA should rush into negotiations with your mechanics and agree to their demands?
