The company will hire again if they are successful in forcing everyone out or if a bunch of us keel over. Not a minute sooner.
TWU negotiations.........what?
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The company will hire again if they are successful in forcing everyone out or if a bunch of us keel over. Not a minute sooner.
brokenwrench
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- Oct 27, 2006
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Does anybody have the new "all in" rate for a top line AMT?
What is Title I Line Premium and Title II?
Thanks.
MERV
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American Airlines, Mechanics Reach Tentative Labor Pact
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703961104575226741285281912.html?mod=rss_whats_news_us
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703961104575226741285281912.html?mod=rss_whats_news_us
brokenwrench
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- Oct 27, 2006
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Does anybody have the new "all in" rate for a top line AMT?
What is Title I Line Premium and Title II?
Thanks.
What is Title I Line Premium and Title II?
Thanks.
star power
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- Dec 9, 2005
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This looks like a treat before the whippin. :unsure:
Here are the rates, as per the TA posted on the negotiations website;
CC/INSP/TCC - $40.12 hr ($83,499 yr) night shift DOS--------------- LINE PAY INCLUDED --------- DOS +36mos $40.98 ($85238 yr)
----------------- $38.62 hr (80329 yr) day/aft shift DOS--------------- LINE PAY INCLUDED----------DOS +36 mos $39.48 ($82118 yr)
AMT - 37.37 ($77,729 yr) nights DOS------------------ LINE PAY INCLUDED------------DOS +36mos $38.23 (79,518 yr)
-------35.87 ($74,609 yr) day/aft shift DOS-------------LINE PAY INCLUDED------------DOS +36mos $36.73 (76,398 yr)
LINE PREMIUM IS $2.55 hr
TIME FOR CHANGE
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what locals voted to bring this back to the members? Just curious
Hopeful
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- Dec 21, 2002
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This tentative deal has some good points but it falls short of what we should be getting. Then again look who is negotiating for us. Enough said.
Now my point. First of all shame on the TWU for allowing members under 50 to have their prefunding eliminated. I am under fifty and have more seniority than guys that are over fifty and they get to keep it. I can keep it but have to buy it at a group rate. Are you kidding me. This is discrimination on the unions part. They are discriminating me on age and seniority. So much for what unionism means. A signing bonus for the bases but not the line stations. More discrimination or I believe it is the divide and concoure. Geo pay was never mentioned even though it was removed last time around. Thanks TWU.
The money offered is a joke. Hardly keeps pace with COLA. No double time for OT. No retro even back to 2008. Thanks again TWU. OK I need a vacation from all this before I get heartburn again. I wonder what the TWU meant by further agreements to potential mergers on seniority issues. They mentioned industry standards. Oh Boy hear comes the dovetailing on the next merger mania.
Now my point. First of all shame on the TWU for allowing members under 50 to have their prefunding eliminated. I am under fifty and have more seniority than guys that are over fifty and they get to keep it. I can keep it but have to buy it at a group rate. Are you kidding me. This is discrimination on the unions part. They are discriminating me on age and seniority. So much for what unionism means. A signing bonus for the bases but not the line stations. More discrimination or I believe it is the divide and concoure. Geo pay was never mentioned even though it was removed last time around. Thanks TWU.
The money offered is a joke. Hardly keeps pace with COLA. No double time for OT. No retro even back to 2008. Thanks again TWU. OK I need a vacation from all this before I get heartburn again. I wonder what the TWU meant by further agreements to potential mergers on seniority issues. They mentioned industry standards. Oh Boy hear comes the dovetailing on the next merger mania.
767 mechanic
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Tulsa,MIA, ORD and DFW were the sellouts along with the Int. Local 567 put the bullet point proposal on their website and was told to take it down by Don V because it was not the full text version,which is not that much different than the bullet point version. He said that he was threaten with being brought up on charges by the Int and that Don V told him that the only reason that he new about it is because he was contacted by somebody in the company. The people that I have talked to mechanic and osm are 100% against this contract and think that this is worse than the 2003 concessions. Tulsa and the line will lose alot of jobs if this goes through due to the Eagle ASMs.
Has anyoe bothered to actually read anything or than the pay section of this piece of garbage. For openers the TWU and the Company are creating a New Classification. Licensed OSM's. That's right licensed OSM's. Basically, or should I say specifically this is a Licensed Technician by another name. Not only will the be filling 20% of every business units overhaul docks....they will be a pay scale that hasn't been created yet because it is a new Classification. Wake up people. They will be coming to DWH (Hanger 5 DFW) also. The tenative agreement states that those work rules at DWH still have to be negotiated. Yes that means negotiate that whole facility to be staffed by the new Licensed OSM position. Take all the B-Checks from DFW and move them over there....Simple right. Hundreds of layoffs to come at DFW. Not to mention the bases for which 20% of these New Mechanics with Licenses in their pockets to take. Maybe the pay scale for these will be $15/Hr base with $5 License Premium. Now let me get to the ASM cap. Raising from 6% to10% will eliminate some AA routes. Less routes equals less planes equals lose of jobs. Oh did I forget to mention or remind you of the 22 CRJ-700's that AMR purchased in December 2009 for delivery starting in (you guessed it June 2010. Wow what a coincidence. Now lets get to the meat of the ASM cap. A total elimination of that cap in markets in which AA & AE both fly. Thats right markets in which AA & AE fly will be EXCLUDED from the cap. Unlimited or unchallanged unrestricted flying. DO I NEED TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS PEOPLE. WAKE UP......MANY MANY MANY LAYOFFS TO COME.....WISH YOU ALL WELL FOR WHAT LITTLE TIME YOU HAVE LEFT AT THE ONCE ON-TIME MACHINE
Has anyone bothered to actually read anything other than the pay section of this piece of garbage. For openers the TWU and the Company are creating a New Classification. Licensed OSM's. That's right licensed OSM's. Basically, or should I say specifically this is a Licensed Technician by another name. Not only will the be filling 20% of every business units overhaul docks....they will be a pay scale that hasn't been created yet because it is a new Classification. Wake up people. They will be coming to DWH (Hanger 5 DFW) also. The tenative agreement states that those work rules at DWH still have to be negotiated. Yes that means negotiate that whole facility to be staffed by the new Licensed OSM position. Take all the B-Checks from DFW and move them over there....Simple right. Hundreds of layoffs to come at DFW. Not to mention the bases for which 20% of these New Mechanics with Licenses in their pockets to take. Maybe the pay scale for these will be $15/Hr base with $5 License Premium. Now let me get to the ASM cap. Raising from 6% to10% will eliminate some AA routes. Less routes equals less planes equals lose of jobs. Oh did I forget to mention or remind you of the 22 CRJ-700's that AMR purchased in December 2009 for delivery starting in (you guessed it June 2010. Wow what a coincidence. Now lets get to the meat of the ASM cap. A total elimination of that cap in markets in which AA & AE both fly. Thats right markets in which AA & AE fly will be EXCLUDED from the cap. Unlimited or unchallanged unrestricted flying. DO I NEED TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS PEOPLE. WAKE UP......MANY MANY MANY LAYOFFS TO COME.....WISH YOU ALL WELL FOR WHAT LITTLE TIME YOU HAVE LEFT AT THE ONCE ON-TIME MACHINE
Hopeful
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Unfortunately you do, Jet.....It is sad to say that a good number of people only look at the $$$$$ issue....not much of anything else...
Hopeful
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I'm not sure, but the way I read this provision is that the following markets are excluded from the cap increase of 6% to 10%. I don;t read it as being excluded from the cap itself...................
Modify the cap from 6% to 10% with the current counting methodology, but excluding
the following additional markets from the ASM Cap:
BNA, RDU, SJC, STL Eagle routing
Eagle pre-1993 ASMs
Markets in which AA and AE both fly
Maybe someone with the inside scoop can elaborate on it.
