enough already
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I'm a 25+ and I prefer the FCFS as do most of those I work with. Unfortunately, the compAAny usually couldn't care less what we think...
So who's non rev. policy will survive?
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AANOTOK
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Isn't that the truth!!
eolesen
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Timezones wouldn't matter in your example under AA's policy --- thru pax have a higher priority within their classification than local pax. The JFK-MIA nonrev could have listed days before the LAX-JFK-MIA nonrev, but the one making the LAX-JFK-MIA connection will still be boarded first at JFK.
Most of the "my friend checked me in" gaming went away when online check-in became available. That was 10 years ago, if not longer. That leveled the playing field entirely, as anyone with your Jetnet login can list you.
That means a crew member's wife or boyfriend can do it while they're still flying a trip. Heck, even crew members flying domestic can do it while working a flight using GoGo and an iPad. And anyone on the ground can do it via a smartphone.
As for "fiddling with times"... You're flat out lying if you think anyone at AA can modify the time. It's a system generated timestamp.
The only ones who might be able to alter a time are a programmer who works for Sabre or HP (the technology company, since some people still might think the airline code matters...). Nobody at AA has access to do that. And I can tell you undeniably that the guys working for the vendor probably aren't going to risk getting fired for messing with a customer's production database.
TWU informer
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I would rather give up the non-rev all together along with the bickering about fair versus unfair, and regain my pay and benefits. Pay me enough, and I will just buy a ticket when I want to fly.
eolesen
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Some airlines outside the US do just that --- everyone travels on a confirmed ticket.
Instead, they offer a private discount on any published fare, similar to the AA20 that has existed for decades at AA.
It eliminates entirely the whole "collect after the fact" system that has to be there for nonrevs and retirees, as well as all the exception processing out at the airport.
Seniority.
I think a 25 year F/A or Stock clerk should get on airplane before a 6 month new hire in any department.
The one size fits all approach to labor is one of AA's reasons for failure.
Disagree. A employee should be responsible enough to get to the gate as soon as possible. This makes it easier for the gate agent to process the revenue passengers and then the non revs that are patiently waiting. Last minute walk ups creates delays in processing passengers. It is bad enough that last minute pax show up after being in the bar drinking or strolling around waiting for the last minute to show up. I have seen non revs get left behind even though there were seats because the agent did not have enough time to process all the non revs. Walking up the last minute and saying I have more seniority is a irresponsible act for a company benefit.
flyboeing737
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AWA was similar to the AA policy, USA is DOH which they will fight to the bitter end for. I look forward to utilizing the AA policy.
Who said anything about when the non-rev walks up to the gate?
The example you give is the way it works today... Seniority is irrelevant, but order on the standby list is the way it works..
Trying to make sense of your position..
You get on the jet in the order of the standby list.
Order the standby list in seniority order.
If you're not there, well tough cookies. (just like it is today)
My point is supporting the way it is today at AA. I was referring to non revs popping up on the list and adding more time for the agent to sort things out. Many times people travel together and do not want to be separated. The agent has to ask others on the list if they want to go or stay. So if you use seniority then the list keeps updating from either the top down or middle down and the agent has to keep taps on the list constantly as to not board out of order.AA's way the D2's stay the same top down. D3's stay the same top down and so on with all other classes. Having senior people popping up while the boarding process is going on keeps changing the order. AA's way the agents can start processing the first few non revs while the revenue are boarding to save time.
I agree tough cookies if you don't make it to the gate in time. This is why we should be responsible enough as a employee to get to the gate on time.
