So who's non rev. policy will survive?

[CactUSmx]

Oh Ok..my Apologies...I do like the FCFS better than Seniority...Thats fair...Thank You 1AA and Transplant for clearing that up...I will vote FCFS...The Cactus....LoL... just has 1 other question though....What If Im a connecting passenger.. lets say Im flying JFK ORD PHX what would be my check in time in ORD? would it be the time I get to ORD and check in again?

 

[MCI transplant]

Oh Ok..my Apologies...I do like the FCFS better than Seniority...Thats fair...Thank You 1AA and Transplant for clearing that up...I will vote FCFS...The Cactus....LoL... just has 1 other question though....What If Im a connecting passenger.. lets say Im flying JFK ORD PHX what would be my check in time in ORD? would it be the time I get to ORD and check in again?

In your example: You only list one time, at your place of origination. Once you get to ORD you're upgraded from say a D2, to a D2T, which flags you as being in "T"ransit. ------ In otherwords you would get on before another D2 originating in ORD.

 

[1AA]

Oh Ok..my Apologies...I do like the FCFS better than Seniority...Thats fair...Thank You 1AA and Transplant for clearing that up...I will vote FCFS...The Cactus....LoL... just has 1 other question though....What If Im a connecting passenger.. lets say Im flying JFK ORD PHX what would be my check in time in ORD? would it be the time I get to ORD and check in again?

You list yourself through at your originating station. Your connecting city will have you as a T next to your class of travel.

 

[eolesen]

Your time of check-in follows you for subsequent legs on the same directional journey. The person who starts in LHR-ORD-PHX is going to have a head start on the person who checks in JFK-ORD-PHX, and rightfully so since they're on the longer trip.

 

[john john]

Your time of check-in follows you for subsequent legs on the same directional journey. The person who starts in LHR-ORD-PHX is going to have a head start on the person who checks in JFK-ORD-PHX, and rightfully so since they're on the longer trip.

So the time zone does plays into the cluster of FCFS




Thank You

 

[john john]

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Ever hear of UTC? Zulu time? GMT?

I'm typing this at 9am NCE time. If you respond at 7am CLT time, your response isn't going to appear before mine.

The check-in system is the same.... it works with UTC. Everything displayed in a local time is being converted on the fly, be the offset where the end-user is located, or the offsets where the flight activity takes place.

Why this is such a hard concept for you is indeed frightening.

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[Show me the money]

So the time zone does plays into the cluster of FCFS




Thank You

You are such an expert for someone who has never used FCFS. But then I guess we can expect your wisdom on everythin AA even before the merger is done. What other pearls of wisdom do you have that you have no business commenting on. Waiting on pins and needles for your next insightful post.

 

[CactUSmx]

Your time of check-in follows you for subsequent legs on the same directional journey. The person who starts in LHR-ORD-PHX is going to have a head start on the person who checks in JFK-ORD-PHX, and rightfully so since they're on the longer trip.

Thanks for clearing that up E..We had FCFS at America West and i never had a problem getting on a flight..im a Yes voter for FCFS

 

[eolesen]

So the time zone does plays into the cluster of FCFS

No, it doesn't, but where someone starts their journey will.

As I said, transactions in Sabre, Shares, Apollo, Amadeus.. They're all logged in UTC or system time, and displayed in local time.

Take three travelers... One going CLT-PHX-HNL, one going ORD-PHX-HNL, and one going FLG-PHX-HNL...

The CLT traveler checks in at 9:00am in CLT, and the ORD traveler checks in at 08:05am.

09:00 in CLT = 13:00 UTC
08:05 in ORD = 13:05 UTC

The CLT traveler will be listed ahead of the ORD traveler. It has nothing to do with the timezone, it has to do with the time in UTC.

Again, why that's such a hard concept for you is boggling, as is why you'd label that as a cluster.

 

[Just Another BK]

Sounds like the senior employee is penalized for living at a hub.

 

[AANOTOK]

Sounds like the senior employee is penalized for living at a hub.

30 yrs and living at DFW...don't think so.

 

[eolesen]

Sounds like the senior employee is penalized for living at a hub.

This line of argument again?... Move to a spoke, and let me know what you think about all the flight opportunities you have.

Regardless, if the "thru" priority is retained, even in a DOH system you'd still be penalized, since transiting nonrevs would still have a higher priority.

Personally, I see the opposition to FCFS as signs of an entitlement mentality gone bad.

Seniority should only be used within a workgroup, i.e determining who gets which days off, which shift, first shot at picking vacation, or bumping rights into another station during RIF/Transfer.

It shouldn't be used to decide who gets on a flight, the desk or locker closest to the door/window, the newer chair or PC, the larger slice of pizza in the cafeteria, the stall with more toilet paper, or a better parking space in the employee parking lot. Especially when it's something that transcends workgroups.

I'm the fourth or fifth most senior person in a group of about 20. I certainly don't expect to exercise my seniority when it comes to seating arrangements in a meeting, which office I'm assigned to, or where my parking space is, but that's the French mentality of liberté, égalité, & fraternité...

 

[FWAAA]

So the time zone does plays into the cluster of FCFS
Thank You

I'm just a lowly passenger, and I have no difficulty determining the precise moment that is 24 hours in advance of my flight, no matter where I am at that moment - given that you work for an airline, why is it such a difficult concept for you? 24 hours before flight is 24 hours before flight, no matter where you are. Sure, if you're on the other side of the world at the 24 hour mark, you might have to do some mental math, but that's pretty easy to do.

 

[john john]

I do see that the restriction on gaming thru status in your base city has been dropped... but it's still not allowed if you're coming off a trip as a crew member, and can't be combined if you're coming in as an A10/A11 and continuing as a D2...

Let the gaming began the FCFS cluster free for all

 

[tadjr]

Can someone tell me if ALL employees withing the same category have the same chance at check in time or if there are subcategories within each category that are prioritized separately? An AA person told one of our supervisors that certain employees get priority over others within the same category and that didn't sound like what was being explained here.