So who's non rev. policy will survive?

[Crash Pad DCA]

US can allow issuing of BP’s with seats long before departure at the ATO ticket counter if so desire
Why issue BP’s and not give them out. Issuing of BP’s with seat can be done at anytime with US if so desire

Absolutely correct! I've been issued boarding passes at CDG ATO at check-in 2hrs before departure.

In general, if flights are open, the boarding passes have been printed ahead of time and are handed to me right at the gate way before boarding.

The guideline/policies are not before D-30, but you can clear before D-30 if there is a light load....

If a flight is super super tight I prefer not to pre-clear the non-rev list. Why printout a boarding pass for a non-rev that doesnt show up at the gate? Then you are stuck with unseating, clearing, etc. to seat the people further down the list...

Follow the US procedures and guidelines and everthing works smoothly for both revenue and non-revenue pax....

We do this quite well everyday at US....

 

[snapthis]

Nope. He'd be very welcomed! BTW...the crash pad is...FCFS!!!!! LOL

Good one, LOL.

I saw your link on the crash pad. Crystal City/ Pentagon area? Not bad.

 

[john john]

Issuing BP's but holding them allows the agent to go ahead and grab seats for nonrevs who are traveling together, but also leaves a few cards in the deck in case there's a seating problem closer to departure.

Just about every airline I've consulted with does a variation on that theme with their nonrevs.

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Thanks for proving what I said -- when you should be dealing with revenue customers, not employees.

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[Show me the money]

With FCFS,does that require you check in at the airport or can somebody check in on line? If it goes to FCFS,airport chack in only is the fairest way to go in my opinion.At US we had DOH and it worked very well for me and I am not a long time employee. I was hired before 2003 so I was able to get the 5/55 retirement non rev benefit. Only once in 10 trips to Europe did I miss a flight and that was due to 4 people buying tickets at the last minute.
US non rev travel is free except for the taxes. Is AA the same or is there a fee?

You can check in 24 hours before your flight online if you like and after 5 years with the company coach is FREE NO FEES. After 25 years internationl coach is free and first class costs less, FCFS works it also seems to work very well over at Southwest and their people love it.

 

[wings396]

i see ur point but its not fair to EVERYONE just for u or people that have 35+ i am only 25 years old its not fair that u started 10years b4 i was born i had no chance.i am a 4year employee FCFS is fair for EVERYONE bc EVERYONE has a channce to check in 24hr b4 the flight and not just for the peopel that been here 10+ years longer than i been on this earth. I DO on the onther hand think its fair that you get the bid that you want and the vacation dates that you want bc it is wrong to have someone that been here for 4 years to have weekends off and xmass off and have day line ( i rather have tue wes work the xmass and work nights). if you look that they whole pic that fair to everoyone. I have been flying on AA a lot to go to COS and i talked to so many people AA and US and everyone on AA says it fair and they have 30+ years and most of the (WEST) and some of the east say the same. Plus unles you comute do u really flight that much? (i am asking everone not just BK) i fly every week and 35+ years people dont bc of outsid life. and I challange you (anyone) that i can get to PHX quicker form CLT than you can you might wait a day or 2 to get on the none stop i fly threw DFW, DSM, LAX, LAS, or others to get there. and with AA in this you can fly threw any citiy. i got off topic sorry but its FAIR for everony for FCFS

What you are failing to grasp is that all of those 35 year employees where in your shoes at some point as well. They had 35 year employees ahead of them, and they put in thier time slowly climbing the seniority ladder in order to get where they are. To the best of my knowledge, nobody started off their career with a bunch of seniority that catapulted them ahead of the pack enabling them to move ahead of others on the standby list. So your claim that seniority isn't fair is bogus. Be patient, put in your time, and wait just like everyone ahead of you did.
I suppose all of those senior to you should step aside so that you and with your whopping 4 years of time can bid a day shift with weekends too. Next time, think before you post.
Is it "fair" that all of those guys that stared before you were born will most likely be in the ground years before you too? Bad examples all around.

 

[eolesen]

What you are failing to grasp is that all of those 35 year employees where in your shoes at some point as well. They had 35 year employees ahead of them, and they put in thier time slowly climbing the seniority ladder in order to get where they are. To the best of my knowledge, nobody started off their career with a bunch of seniority that catapulted them ahead of the pack enabling them to move ahead of others on the standby list. So your claim that seniority isn't fair is bogus. Be patient, put in your time, and wait just like everyone ahead of you did.
I suppose all of those senior to you should step aside so that you and with your whopping 4 years of time can bid a day shift with weekends too. Next time, think before you post.

What a load of crap. Right up there with "I had to walk uphill in six feet of snow barefoot to school when I was a kid"....

Times change.

I'm not going to force my kids to use a rotary phone stuck to the wall, drive a stick shift, carry a couple of dimes for a pay phone when they're out and about, send them to the library to find a paper encyclopedia, keep around a stack of Yellow Pages, read newspapers, or watch the news exactly at 6pm, just because I had to do all that.

None of you went to work expecting to be involved in a merger of this magnitude or complexity.

If you can't get used to the possibility of a different way of doing things, then just quit now.

 

[MCI transplant]

I've had it both ways, ------Senority TWA (IAM), and AA FCFS (TWU) , and frankly, I was not too thriled about the change either! But it works! And I know at all Airlines that are represented by the IAM, that Senority is king. But in this case, I prefure AA's policy FCFS, best. With AA's online setup on jetnet, everthing is above board. You can preplan your trips, and I'de say 99% of the time everything is above board and all info. on your flight is accessable to everyone. Unlike the Senority thing where you may, or may not, know if a persons Senority is indeed greater than yours! It worked for me, and I had 33 years with TWA, and only 7 with AA!

 

[wings396]

A load of crap in your opinion from the outside to boot. This kid says its not fair that people who started before he was born get to go ahead of him. I usually like and respect most of your posts, but you lost me on this one. This guys comments in general convey that he resents guys who started before he was born, giving him an unfair disadvantage, and that my friend is a load of crap.

 

[wings396]

I've had it both ways, ------Senority TWA (IAM), and AA FCFS (TWU) , and frankly, I was not too thriled about the change either! But it works! And I know at all Airlines that are represented by the IAM, that Senority is king. But in this case, I prefure AA's policy FCFS, best. With AA's online setup on jetnet, everthing is above board. You can preplan your trips, and I'de say 99% of the time everything is above board and all info. on your flight is accessable to everyone. Unlike the Senority thing where you may, or may not, know if a persons Senority is indeed greater than yours! It worked for me, and I had 33 years with TWA, and only 7 with AA!

Well taken, and Fwiw the current US online system shows you the standby list in boarding priority order as well as seniority dates. The last names of those on the list is only partial for better privacy.

 

[MCI transplant]

Well, to answeer my original question of "who's policy will survive", is that we'll just have to wait and see!

 

[john john]

None of you went to work expecting to be involved in a merger of this magnitude or complexity.

That’s not what Alfred Kahn said when I started he is the reason why involved mergers of this magnitude and complexity exist

 

[enough already]

Well, to answeer my original question of "who's policy will survive", is that we'll just have to wait and see!

And will ultimately be decided by the compAAny and no one else....

 

[CactUSmx]

In the America West and US Airways merger it was the same situation. America West was FCFS and US was strictly Seniority. Doug had the employees of both companies vote online which policy stays. I'm sure in this merger the employees will vote on it which i think is fair.

 

[WNMECH]

In the America West and US Airways merger it was the same situation. America West was FCFS and US was strictly Seniority. Doug had the employees of both companies vote online which policy stays. I'm sure in this merger the employees will vote on it which i think is fair.

What took so long for this information to come out?
Everybody stressing out over nothing.
If you get to vote on it, you can settle it by the majority opinion.

 

[ChrisUS]

Times change.
No kidding Sherlock! I dont know if you have ever actually worked for an airline but change is an almost monthly occurrence! I went through numerous policy changes, computer systems, names, paint schemes, and enhancements to procedures and computer entries.

I'm not going to force my kids to use a rotary phone stuck to the wall, drive a stick shift, carry a couple of dimes for a pay phone when they're out and about, send them to the library to find a paper encyclopedia, keep around a stack of Yellow Pages, read newspapers, or watch the news exactly at 6pm, just because I had to do all that.

None of you went to work expecting to be involved in a merger of this magnitude or complexity.
I've been through two.
If you can't get used to the possibility of a different way of doing things, then just quit now.

And people who have NEVER tried seniority boarding should try it. We have done both at US since the HP merger. Seniority won out and has been working fine. FCFS technically benefits me as a retiree more than seniority since that system changed after the HP merger. I still prefer seniority boarding. Less hassles. WHERE you live doesn't matter with that.