So who's non rev. policy will survive?

[AANOTOK]

Again, as a "30 yr employee", I too prefer the FCFS method. But like has been mentioned above, I have much more important things to worry about.

If truth be told though, in my AA years, I have probably flown maybe five or six times. Too many funny noises coming from those rockets. Wife and son do take advantage though...

 

[1AA]

I believe there will be some minor adjustments. The FCFS in my opinion will stay.
The belief that flight crews or commuting employees have priority over other employees on pleasure travel will not happen. At AA "D" travel was always for personal travel.
"A" travel was always company business. Commuting to and from your station is not company business. A employee can live wherever they want.

 

[Jager]

The new non rev policy..

[font=Times New Roman'][background=white]Interim Reciprocal Non-Rev Travel Program for American and US Airways Employees
Feb. 19, 2013Are you ready to travel the world? Today we are sharing details of an interim reciprocal travel program with American Airlines, effective March 1, for active employees of mainline US Airways, PSA and Piedmont, retirees, spouses, domestic partners, registered guests/companions and eligible pass travelers according to each carrier’sexisting travel programs. The interim travel agreement does not include reciprocal guest pass travel privileges.

Overview[/background][/font]​

• Active employees, retirees, spouses or domestic partners and dependent children will have unlimited travel at deeply discounted zone-based fares on both carriers using electronic tickets.
• Parents and registered guests/companions will have limited travel at the same deeply discounted zone-based fares.
• Boarding will be done by time of check in after each respective carrier's own employees, but before OAL employees.
• The interim travel agreement is restricted to travel in the economy (coach) cabin. Including First Class and Business Class travel would create complexity at airports and in back-office processes that would make us unable to implement the program quickly.
• The dress code in economy (coach) cabin on both American and US Airways will continue to be casual.
• Travelers can enjoy a far expanded route network, stretching to all corners of North America, plus South America, Europe, Hawaii, the Caribbean and the Far East.

[font=Times New Roman'][background=white]Listing and Ticketing
To travel on American, you will need to purchase a zone-based electronic ticket* to travel on American as described below. You will then listfor your flight through American’s ID90.comwebsite, which is posted on the “Interline and ZED” page on Wings.

*From March 1-19, purchase electronic tickets for travel on American at any US ticket counter or the Pass Bureau at CHQ. Beginning March 20, US employees can purchase electronic tickets for travel on AA via myIDTravel.comfrom anywhere in the world. For more information on myIDTravel.com, visit the Travel page on Wings.

Interim Zone-based Fares
When traveling on American Airlines, US Airways employees and eligible pass travelers will fly at deeply discounted zone-based fares using electronic tickets. The same will be true for employees of American Airlines traveling on US Airways. Because of the differences between American and US Airways’ travel programs, fee-waived travel was not an option in implementing an interim reciprocal program.[/background][/font]

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[font=Times New Roman'][background=white]Boarding Priority
Boarding priorities will be determined by time of check in for AA and US employees traveling on the other airline, meaning employees, retirees and dependents will board according to check-in time (first come, first serve). Boarding will be after each respective carrier’s employees, but before employees of other airlines.

Employees will board at the following priority:[/background][/font]

• AA employees on US Airways: SA5A
• US Airways employees on AA: AAC

[font=Times New Roman'][background=white]Don't get hung up on a 5 or an A in the boarding priorities; although different, these are equivalent rankings based on how the airlines board. Both of these enable boarding after the other airline’s active employees and retirees, but before OAL employees.

Registered Guests/Companions
American employees’ registered companions and US Airways employees’ registered guests will also be able to travel on the other carrier as part of the interim travel agreement. Travel on each other's airline will be limited to four round trip tickets per year. Electronic tickets will be purchased and issued at the same discounted zone-based fares as the employee and other eligible dependents. Registered companions and guests will list for flights and purchase tickets as is covered above in the “Listing and Ticketing” section.

Registered guests/companions join spouses, domestic partners, parents and dependent children as eligible dependents who have reciprocal travel privileges with US Airways and American Airlines.

Parents
Parents of US Airways and American Airlines employees will also have reciprocal travel on the other carrier as part of the interim travel program. Parent travel on the other airline will be limited to one ticket (one-way or round trip) per year. Electronic tickets will be issued at the same discounted zone-based fares as the employee and other eligible dependents. Parents will list for flights and purchase tickets as is covered above in the “Listing and Ticketing” section. US parents-in-law will not be eligible for travel on AA.

Dress Code
The interim dress code reflects both US Airways and American Airlines' policies, which allows casual attire in coach (economy).

Combined Travel Program
The interim reciprocal travel program will remain in place until any future changes are communicated. Development of a combined travel program is contingent on the successful close of a merger between American Airlines and US Airways, which is expected in 3Q13. How soon a combined travel program for the new American Airlines can be ready will be determined after a thorough analysis of both current programs as well as the determination of the effort to update automation.

Additional Information
The interim program specifically addresses the items above, however, other information such as unaccompanied minors, cabin pets and checked baggage policies can be found on the AA/US Interim Travel page on the travel section of Wings.[/background][/font]

 

[Jager]

[font=Times New Roman']Distance
(in miles)[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']Zone[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']Zone-based
Fares[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']Sample Markets[/font]


[font=Times New Roman']1-450[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']1[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']$5[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']BMI-ORD[/font]

[font=Times New Roman']451-750[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']2[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']$5[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']ORD-TUL[/font]

[font=Times New Roman']751-1,600[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']3[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']$8[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']PHX-DFW[/font]

[font=Times New Roman']1,601-3,200[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']4[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']$15[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']LAX-ORD[/font]

[font=Times New Roman']3,201-4,080[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']5[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']$35[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']LHR-JFK[/font]

[font=Times New Roman']4,081-5,000[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']6[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']$35[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']EZE-MIA[/font]

[font=Times New Roman']5,001-6,100[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']7[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']$35[/font]

[font=Times New Roman']LAX-LHR[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']6,101+[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']8[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']$50[/font]
[font=Times New Roman']ORD-PVG[/font]

 

[Show me the money]

The fcfs way of handling boarding in my opinion is outdated. When most airlines instituted this rule, the intent was to let whoever had been waiting the longest at the airport for the flight to be the first on....It was like standing in line for a movie, or concert or anything else. And it made sense...With today's technology, we do not go down at stand in line at the airport anymore....we check in at a computer terminal and anybody can check in 24 hrs in advance and then go about their other duties for the day. It's not like you sacrificed for that advantage by hanging out at the airport all day like in the old days.

Boarding by seniority makes more sense and provides a well deserved advantage if you have sacrificed 30 years of your life for the airline as opposed to 1 or 2. The airline can provide each employee a few higher status boardings each year for your vacations. US uses the SA1P. That way, a new employee can select when it is important to have an advantage for vacations or when he has more important travel.

I would not be opposed to a fcfs policy if we require you to check in at the airport. That way, only those who really need or want to travel will be motivated to make the sacrifice to go early.

spoken like a true slug!!! If you have been trying to get home for days and you have to worry full flights and someone like you walking up at the last minute you may never get home. Get out of the 50's and come in to todays world. Or better yet STAY HOME!!!!!!!!

 

[LowManOnThePole]

I hope we at least keep the US rule that you can wear nice jeans in first and shorts in coach. AA rules are antiguated in that aspect. Gate agents=fashion police

 

[LowManOnThePole]

I'm happy with first come first serve (I have 31 years) what I don't like are retirees boarded after actives. Hope AA's policy remains.

Retirees have a lot more time on their hands than active employees, I think that's a great thing about US Travel policy I hope AA adopts that. Also the fact that if an employee's dependant is traveling without the employee they are lower classification. That makes sense. How many times I've been bumped off by someone's SAHM wife and 5 kids going to TUL..

 

[Mach85ER]

I hope we at least keep the US rule that you can wear nice jeans in first and shorts in coach. AA rules are antiguated in that aspect. Gate agents=fashion police

Are you kidding me? You can't step up your Walmart wardrobe enough to at least act like you belong in First?

Go back to 34E until you figure it out and stop embarrassing everyone else since it doesn't matter if you do it to yourself.

 

[ilmbeaches]

Jeans in First on AA? Not happening

 

[IORFA]

We can only hope. We are one of the last airlines to stick to the non jeans routine in first. It's 2013 and we have way too many people who work and make decisions at AA that are stuck in the 50's.

 

[eolesen]

We are one of the last airlines to stick to the non jeans routine in first. It's 2013 and we have way too many people who work and make decisions at AA that are stuck in the 50's.

Maybe in the US, but you should get out more. Try flying in jeans in F on CX, QF, or JL and let me know how that works out...

 

[Harold Nads]

I like the no jean policy in First Class. When I board I know who in the front of the plane is a successful paying customer; they have on jeans.

 

[Mach85ER]

We can only hope. We are one of the last airlines to stick to the non jeans routine in first. It's 2013 and we have way too many people who work and make decisions at AA that are stuck in the 50's.

I'll disagree. While I'd rather have a standard of classy, even if it did include jeans, it would put much work on the agents to enforce. It's not those that look good, it's the bottom tier with no fashion sense that would come onboard looking like crap.

I look at it this way, I saw one revenue F/C passenger whose face I recognized, but his dress was totally out of place. Pastel Izod shirt, nice biege slacks, decent shoes and glasses with conservative combed hair. It took me a few minutes to realize who he was, a 1980's punk rocker with a few decent songs. Didn't recognize him because he usually performs in a loin cloth or naked.

If I##y P#p can up his travel attire for the airlines and a conservative British Island, so can I.

 

[IORFA]

Maybe in the US, but you should get out more. Try flying in jeans in F on CX, QF, or JL and let me know how that works out...

You are correct, I was referring to US carriers only. I would also venture to guess that the carriers you listed would leave me behind before putting a non-rev in F/C. Even the vaunted and only worthy carrier in the US lets non-revs wear jeans in first. That would be Delta if anyone was corn fused by the WT reference. By the way, I am ok with the policy however outdated it is. It would be nice to update it that's all. Or maybe we can go back to the coats and ties as well? That would really make the non-revs stand out.

 

[Just Another BK]

Most of the time NRSA's do not get to fly First Class anyways on US. They are almost always full up. Of course we didn't lose over 10 Billion over the last ten years so you at AA might have more seats open up front to choose from. Seniority rules baby. Get in line !

To the 25 year old. We were all there once too. Suck it up and drive from now on !