IAM Fleet Service topic 6/21-6/27

[john john]

Where to begin?

Not with you.. your jr inexperience lack of knowledge. your reply’s have all been hear before
Same old song and dance by management I don’t know who you thing your are kidding
Maybe the young and inexperience who buy into your scare tactic. bye bye

 

[pit_till_death]

5) If I lose this job tomorrow, I could easily make double doing something else with my educational background and experience, but I would miss all the opportunities to posts on this board, and that alone is worth an additional $20/hour, right? Bring it on, as I need a five month paid vacation provided by Uncle Sam's unemployment insurance.


so Replys Jester.

Jasper,

If your educational background is so extensive, and by the way, this is an open-ended inqery, why in the world would you waste your intelligence tossing luggage?

I have too much time and experience with this company to listen to any more of, again, your ecomomic babble.

This will be my last post to you as my "educational background" informs me that I am too intelligent to entertain any more of your thoughts. (Are they really yours or are you citing newspapers again?) Anyway, Have fun entertaining yourself, because I think everyone is tired of your endless rhetoricals. Have a nice life, and I really don't care if you get the last word.

So concludes pit

 

[JoeDirt]

Where to begin? So little time and so much misinformation...

1) Southwest handles more domestic cargo than any passenger airline in the US.

2) Zone Loading? What's that? When the PHL boys are tossing a few back at the shipping dock? Sorry, there isn't any zone loading coming on any flight to PHX from East, unless "zone loading" means to throw all the locals and connects in the same bin while giving only wheels to grab.

Mr. Jester
1) Maybe you should have started somewhere else. My reference to cargo includes everything loaded in the bins(bags, mail, freight etc). I will restate my original claim. I handle more "cargo" in a day than any SWA ramp agent no matter how many "turns" they do in a shift.

2) Zone Loading! This is how I send A/C to you and every other destination with transfer bags(PHX, LAX, SFO, ORD, LAS etc). I also load with the handles out but a seasoned ramper know that grabbing everything by the handles is how one developes tendinitis and wouldn't wine about such trivial things. You might want to get up off your couch every once in a while and actually unload an A/C.

3) As I stated before the logistics of the two operations(US and WN) are completely different and cannot be compared like apples to apples.

So refutes Joe

 

[pit_till_death]

Some interesting reading. Everyone concernd with fuel prices, at home, and at work, should read this, and then immediately call your Congressman/Woman and insist this bill be passed.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/gas-...st=MostReadHome

 

[doing it on my knees]

Jasper,

If your educational background is so extensive, and by the way, this is an open-ended inqery, why in the world would you waste your intelligence tossing luggage?

I have too much time and experience with this company to listen to any more of, again, your ecomomic babble.

This will be my last post to you as my "educational background" informs me that I am too intelligent to entertain any more of your thoughts. (Are they really yours or are you citing newspapers again?) Anyway, Have fun entertaining yourself, because I think everyone is tired of your endless rhetoricals. Have a nice life, and I really don't care if you get the last word.

So concludes pit

So Interferes Doing it On My Knees,

By no means am taking sides during all of this bickering, it's a macho thing I know. But I would like to interject my opinion on the choices we all make here on the ramp.
I'll start by referring to a statement former girlfriend made to me long ago.
"ALL RAMPERS ARE STUPID AND HAVE NO EDUCATION"
Being that she never worked on the ramp, I begged to differ. I told her "I will prove we have smart guys thowing bags downstairs".
I then went around the very next day to most of my coworkers. I asked them about their education and former jobs before ending up at HP/US. To my pleasant surprise, I discovered I worked next to people who had Masters, Bachelors, Associates degrees. Former teachers, computer programmers, lawyers, stock brokers. It's amazing what you find out when you just ask.
I wrote down the info and presented it to the "Girlfriend". She was pleasantly surprised and asked "Why do they do this, when they could do that?"
I had asked and everyone basicallytold me the same... "It's a fun job and I was tired of doing what I did before."
In closing, we all make decisions to stay or go, to do or do not. Nobody is forced to stay employed with this place, but we all do and when we finally get tired of slinging bags, we quit, just like everyone else.
Kudos to everyone doing this job and putting up with the crap we give each other everyday.

 

[pit_till_death]

So Interferes Doing it On My Knees,

By no means am taking sides during all of this bickering, it's a macho thing I know. But I would like to interject my opinion on the choices we all make here on the ramp.
I'll start by referring to a statement former girlfriend made to me long ago.
"ALL RAMPERS ARE STUPID AND HAVE NO EDUCATION"
Being that she never worked on the ramp, I begged to differ. I told her "I will prove we have smart guys thowing bags downstairs".
I then went around the very next day to most of my coworkers. I asked them about their education and former jobs before ending up at HP/US. To my pleasant surprise, I discovered I worked next to people who had Masters, Bachelors, Associates degrees. Former teachers, computer programmers, lawyers, stock brokers. It's amazing what you find out when you just ask.
I wrote down the info and presented it to the "Girlfriend". She was pleasantly surprised and asked "Why do they do this, when they could do that?"
I had asked and everyone basicallytold me the same... "It's a fun job and I was tired of doing what I did before."
In closing, we all make decisions to stay or go, to do or do not. Nobody is forced to stay employed with this place, but we all do and when we finally get tired of slinging bags, we quit, just like everyone else.
Kudos to everyone doing this job and putting up with the crap we give each other everyday.

Please read Jaspers last post........I think that you have the wrong idea about mine. He's always throwing his education around and I just rubute that he's not the only one with a college education in this place. So, I agree with your post and I am by no means slamming rampers, for I am one.

 

[JoeDirt]

Doing It
The truth of the matter is I like my job. The friendships I have made will last for a life time. When I speak of the people I work with I do not refer to them as co-workers but as friends. I do this not because I have no choice but because I enjoy what I do for a living. If it ever comes to the point where I no longer feel that way I will move on. How many people in can honestly say that after 24 years at the same place.

 

[doing it on my knees]

Pit and Joe D.
I thought I was clear in my post. I wasn't defending anyone. I'm aware of Jester and its pretty funny some of the words he throws around. I was just trying to put across that we're all here because we want to be.
Me personally, I never graduated High School and I write screenplays as a hobby, I don't claim to be smart, but I've been told by many a person I respect that I'm an Intelligent man and very wise for my age.
I just hate when we, as peers try putting each other down. Whether it's Jester saying he's smart or whatever. We don't have squat to prove to one another and most of us can't prove anything to each other unless we work together, so why bother arguing about it? Me, I never take the bait.
My CLT bros will learn when I get there, that I work hard, don't complain and keep to myself. I let my actions speak for me. The writing and opinions of the state of our airline I leave for this forum, so I can think about what I say before I say it.
We're all in the same gang guys.

So shuts up,
D.I.O.M.K.

 

[JoeDirt]

Doing It
Your post were very clear, I didn't think you were defending anyone and I agree with most everything you say. Look forward to seeing you in CLT. When you get here look me up and lunch is on me. I find your last request very hard to do. Anybody that knows me knows that it is very hard for me to shut up. LOL

Respectfully
Joe

 

[doing it on my knees]

Doing It
Your post were very clear, I didn't think you were defending anyone and I agree with most everything you say. Look forward to seeing you in CLT. When you get here look me up and lunch is on me. I find your last request very hard to do. Anybody that knows me knows that it is very hard for me to shut up. LOL

Respectfully
Joe

Joe D,
As long as lunch isn't road kill stew, you're on.

 

[JoeDirt]

Joe D,
As long as lunch isn't road kill stew, you're on.

No road kill. We will make it your choice.

 

[Jester]

To my pleasant surprise, I discovered I worked next to people who had Masters, Bachelors, Associates degrees. Former teachers, computer programmers, lawyers, stock brokers. It's amazing what you find out when you just ask.
I wrote down the info and presented it to the "Girlfriend". She was pleasantly surprised and asked "Why do they do this, when they could do that?"
I had asked and everyone basicallytold me the same... "It's a fun job and I was tired of doing what I did before."
In closing, we all make decisions to stay or go, to do or do not. Nobody is forced to stay employed with this place, but we all do and when we finally get tired of slinging bags, we quit, just like everyone else.
Kudos to everyone doing this job and putting up with the crap we give each other everyday.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Although I suspect I am becoming tired of slinging bags and working for this company and I don't wish to look back and think, "Damn, I sure wasted 20 years, not to mention a good chunk of change I could have made."

Thanks for that reminder to all of us that fleet service are not all just bunch of uneducated gorillas destroying bags.

So Appreciates Jester.

 

[Jester]

3) As I stated before the logistics of the two operations(US and WN) are completely different and cannot be compared like apples to apples.

So refutes Joe

You are right and either can your pay be compared, as well. SWA guys work harder and handle more flights on average than US guys.

I'll say it for the third time on this thread, "When I work as many flights as SWA fleet service, then I'll complain about being underpaid."

Also, continue to keep those handle either up or out, as my only serious muscle injury was due to pulling on a bag's wheels and it snapping off suddenly.

So Recounts Jester.

 

[binderella]

You are right and either can your pay be compared, as well. SWA guys work harder and handle more flights on average than US guys.

I'll say it for the third time on this thread, "When I work as many flights as SWA fleet service, then I'll complain about being underpaid."

Also, continue to keep those handle either up or out, as my only serious muscle injury was due to pulling on a bag's wheels and it snapping off suddenly.

So Recounts Jester.

One of our ramp guys in BWI went to Southwest (one of their busiest stations) and he says that they work more flights but that the procedures make it easier than US. As a new guy still on probation he gets all the crap and he says it is still easier than US. To be fair, US is chronically short at night in BWI so maybe it is just a station thing.

 

[JoeDirt]

You are right and either can your pay be compared, as well. SWA guys work harder and handle more flights on average than US guys.

I'll say it for the third time on this thread, "When I work as many flights as SWA fleet service, then I'll complain about being underpaid."

Also, continue to keep those handle either up or out, as my only serious muscle injury was due to pulling on a bag's wheels and it snapping off suddenly.

So Recounts Jester.

Dear Mr. Jester
We will call this one a draw. I have no idea how hard SWA fleet guys work but you also have no idea how hard I work either. I will continue to do my job and try to make yours easier by loading the A/C properly and with the handles out. Let me give you a little advice. Those handles will get you in the end. When at all possible grab the bags open handed and not by the handles. Wrapping your hand around the handle and pulling will result in tendinitis.

So Advices Joe