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I.A.M VS I.B.T

Birdbrain, LMFAO!!!!

That is what is intelligence of lack of is, you can lead the horse to water, but you cant make him drink.

Must have the ibt brain implant controlling his mind.
 
if you can't compehend this,i feel sorry for you.
That's all happened. The AWA stock was transferred to the new LCC stock. The old US Airways is no longer in bankruptcy. The merger is completed. Now it's all the details........I am not being nasty or anything but I don't understand what point you're trying to make.
 
You never file with 35% because some cards will get thrown out, any union knows that and if you file short you will be barred for one year.

35% is around 2,450 cards needed.

Maybe he can understand that:

The board of directors of America West Holdings Corporation has unanimously approved the merger of
America West Holdings with Barbell Acquisition Corp., a wholly owned subsidiary of US Airways Group,
Inc.
 
That's all happened. The AWA stock was transferred to the new LCC stock. The old US Airways is no longer in bankruptcy. The merger is completed. Now it's all the details........I am not being nasty or anything but I don't understand what point you're trying to make.
quit arguing over what it really is or isn't...in legalese its a friggin merger...end of case. ;)
 
Just out of idle curiosity how long is the "Merger" document?

My point is the National Mediation Board will sift through Every Document and determine whether it is a merger and then go fom there. The "Devil" is in the details and I've neither the time nore the legal expertise to sift through all of the information.

A point to ponder is that 2 teams of lawyers in conjunction with however many financiers and their lawyers crafted the final document and you can bet that some place in that document is wording that will lead the NMB to rule the way the COMPANY wants.

If the NMB issues a favorable ruling for the IAM then the IAM could rightfully be called a "Company" union since the company clearly has indicated a preference in working with IAM. Does this bode well for workers? No idea but a point to ponder as you attack each other.
only some 377 pages bob.
not really into the attack mode either...just trying to make some see they're arguing a moot issue. ;)
its available for all to see at:
here- go find
 
You never file with 35% because some cards will get thrown out, any union knows that and if you file short you will be barred for one year.

35% is around 2,450 cards needed.

Maybe he can understand that:

The board of directors of America West Holdings Corporation has unanimously approved the merger of
America West Holdings with Barbell Acquisition Corp., a wholly owned subsidiary of US Airways Group,
Inc.
That's a point that we agree on. ;) You never file with the minimum number or percentage that is required. No different than the petition signings at the grocery store....there will be a number that will be invalid.

As I see it, that's why the objection to single carrier status was filed. It delays that ruling and allows additional time for the "raiding" and the collection of additional cards above the 35% requirement.

And there are definitions of eligible voters from the NMB info site. The sorting through of all the cards collected will determine the validity of the cards.

So yes, the merger is completed. The next steps are in the works.........one step at a time.
 
only some 377 pages bob.
not really into the attack mode either...just trying to make some see they're arguing a moot issue. ;)
its available for all to see at:
here- go find
No attack mode........just some "healthy" ;) discussions. :D

As you've seen........we really do love each other. :huh: Yep......a bit wacko too. :wacko:
 
DUDE this started as a View attachment 3997 about IAM contract ART17 pgh P and NMB ART 9.0 19.6 and like any time Pinocchio is proven wrong he changes subjet,twist the words. His is View attachment 3998 maybe you can help him cause he needs View attachment 3999
and like i originally told you,according to your very own 104 website article 17 is 'general and miscellaneous'....again, whats your point??

and like i originally told you,according to your very own 104 website article 17 is 'general and miscellaneous'....again, whats your point??
hey ace....that verbage has been in here for ages and for you i will tell you that it means, beyond a shadow of doubt that no modifications to the contract can be made without the express written consent of the VP of labor relations and the General Chair of the IAM.
this refers to what in union circles is refered to as letters of agreement .
 
I have questions from the pay scales.

What does it take to move from one STEP to another? What if your current HP/AWA pay equates to more than the highest step? Are you frozen until the end of time........or 2009? From what I've read, they won't reduce your pay.
 
delldude Posted Today, 10:07 AM
hey ace....that verbage has been in here for ages and for you i will tell you that it means, beyond a shadow of doubt that no modifications to the contract can be made without the express written consent of the VP of labor relations and the General Chair of the IAM.
this refers to what in union circles is refered to as letters of agreement .

MY POINT is that there does not have to a vote from the members to make a change to the IAM contract. That is BS that changes can be made witout your knowage. From the post and the IAM contract that is online I see were you all have been lead down the path View attachment 4001
 
delldude Posted Today, 10:07 AM
hey ace....that verbage has been in here for ages and for you i will tell you that it means, beyond a shadow of doubt that no modifications to the contract can be made without the express written consent of the VP of labor relations and the General Chair of the IAM.
this refers to what in union circles is refered to as letters of agreement .

MY POINT is that there does not have to a vote from the members to make a change to the IAM contract. That is BS that changes can be made witout your knowage. From the post and the IAM contract that is online I see were you all have been lead down the path View attachment 4001
you are very wrong there......do you remember the contract votes during our bankruptcies?if what you say is true,why then did we vote each time?they are/were contract modifications.
letters of agreement are used to clarify verbages and understandings.
maybe they agree that in tempe they will both agree to different start times than in the contract or days off or things of that nature....than say charlotte or pit.
annything else requires membership vote. ;)
 
All letters of agreement are part of the CBA and they are in it for every member to read.

Airwoman,

That would be subject to the transition negotiations in regard to your pay scale question.
 
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