I.A.M VS I.B.T

[delldude]

Come on and help us ignorant cowboys out here. Because if you read the NMB it doesn't read like you say Pinocchio. So be a man and show us, everyone would like to see.

apparently the IBT members posting here have legal training in NMB interpretation??
funny those who have been educated and actualy have lived the law are aware of the correct legal ramifications and have posted these results here on this forum for all to view and have uncharacteristically been attacked by an undereducated minority.
time after time IBT representitives have on this very forum presented misinformation and outright lies as truth,only to be refuted by 700 or myself with information posted by themselves on their very own IBT Teamsters 104 website,time and time again called to respond to these outright lies and deceptions and these spineless messiahs blend into the backround and refuse to respond to challenges to the information that has been catagorically proven to be lies....
AND YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO CLAIM THE IAM LIES??

 

[Ramp Rogue]

US bought psa for approx. 400 million. No merger. Do you understand BOUGHT?
US bought Piedmont for approx 1.1 billion. No merger. Once again do you understand the word BOUGHT? US/HP were merged, not bought. Do you understand NOT BOUGHT? There will be a vote. Do you understand GOODBYE IAM!

 

[700UW]

Go read up on the past deals, they were mergers.

1988 PSA is merged into USAir.

1989 Piedmont is integrated into USAir. The merger brings with it Piedmont's international routes as well as its Charlotte, Baltimore, Dayton and Syracuse hubs. Baltimore and Charlotte remain hubs. The merger also brings USAir's first wide body jets, the Boeing 767-200ERs now used on its transatlantic and some transcontinental routes

US Airways History

Don't let the facts get in your way!

 

[Bird Doctor]

Pinocchio View attachment 3985
dont let the fact get in your way post the whole thing. the were acquired Quit twisting words

Go read up on the past deals, they were mergers.
US Airways History

Don't let the facts get in your way!

Pacific Southwest Airlines, the legendary and beloved (of intra-California travelers) "PSA" was born out of war surplus pilots and DC-3s in 1949, flying between major and minor airports in the state at very low fares, and offering a minimum-frills, shuttle-like service in the biggest markets. As the airline grew, it moved to larger aircraft -- DC-4, DC-6, the L-188 Electra II and finally to jets, notably the DC-9, MD-80 and Boeing 727 before being acquired in a merger by US Airways in 1988.

SYLLABICATION: ac·quire
TRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: ac·quired, ac·quir·ing, ac·quires
1. To gain possession of: acquire 100 shares of stock.

merger
n. 1) in corporate law, the joining together of two corporations in which one corporation transfers all of its assets to the other, which continues to exist. In effect one corporation "swallows" the other, but the shareholders of the swallowed company receive shares of the surviving corporation. A merger is distinguished from a "consolidation," in which both companies join together to create a new corporation.

USAIRWAYS bought them out that is not the same type of merger that is going on here. This merger is a CONSOLIDATION USAQ stock was zero out in this merger AWA stock went .4532 for 1 and changed to LCC. trdeing at $39.00 1/6/06
Pinocchio do you not see that it is not the same. You are talking about the past, we are talking the future.

 

[700UW]

From US Airways itself:

In September, the merger between US Airways and America West Airlines was completed. The deal created the nation's fifth largest domestic airline as measured by domestic revenue passenger miles (RPMs) and available seat miles (ASMs) and the first truly national low-fare, low-cost carrier. The merger produced a strong airline with simplified pricing, international scope, and amenities that include an extensive frequent flyer program, airport clubs, assigned seating and First Class cabin service. America West Chairman, President and CEO Doug Parker heads the new company, which is projected to have $10 billion in annual revenues. US Airways President and CEO Bruce Lakefield will be vice chairman of the board.

The combined airlines maintain their hubs in Charlotte, Phoenix and Philadelphia, with secondary hubs or focus cities in Boston, Las Vegas, New York LaGuardia, Pittsburgh and Washington, D.C. The fleet consists of 360 mainline jets.

Don't let the facts get in your way!

 

[Bird Doctor]

PinocchioView attachment 3986
Quit twisting words.
QUOTE
In September, the merger between US Airways and America West Airlines was completed. The deal created the nation's fifth largest domestic airline as measured by domestic revenue passenger miles (RPMs) and available seat miles (ASMs) and the first truly national low-fare, low-cost carrier. The merger produced a strong airline with simplified pricing, international scope, and amenities that include an extensive frequent flyer program, airport clubs, assigned seating and First Class cabin service. America West Chairman, President and CEO Doug Parker heads the new company ,which is projected to have $10 billion in annual revenues. US Airways President and CEO Bruce Lakefield will be vice chairman of the board.
The combined airlines maintain their hubs in Charlotte, Phoenix and Philadelphia, with secondary hubs or focus cities in Boston, Las Vegas, New York LaGuardia, Pittsburgh and Washington, D.C. The fleet consists of 360 mainline jets.

A merger is distinguished from a "consolidation," in which both companies join together to create a new corporation.

AGAIN:USAIRWAYS bought them out that is not the same type of merger that is going on here. This merger is a CONSOLIDATION USAQ stock was zero out in this merger AWA stock went .4532 for 1 and changed to LCC. trdeing at $39.00 1/6/06

View attachment 3987Pinocchio

 

[700UW]

I guess you don't believe your own company who says it is a merger.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

I guess you don't believe your own company who says it is a merger.

It is a merger......of a very different and unique set of circumstances. And as an employee 700, it is OUR company. And as an employee, I would think that you would include yourself and not call it YOUR company......it's OUR company. Time to strive for better and get out of the OLD rut. This is a NEW company.

 

[Bird Doctor]

I guess you don't believe your own company who says it is a merger.

PinocchioView attachment 3989
I did not say it wasn't a merger just that the type of merger is not the same as before. Can you not understand that.

 

[delldude]

once again.....proven beyond the shadow of a doubt....
MERGER



todays lesson,boys and girls.....

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Whether a company is bought or whether a merger took place is frankly beyond the scope of any of our armchair lawyering capabilities.

What ANYONE says in public in the form of PR is of no legal bearing. What is filed with the SEC and how the accountants, lawyers & Judges interpret those documents apparently will determine to a large extent what transpires next. It's nice reading though, carry on.

And in the end, it doesn't matter what you want to call it. It is a NEW company with a NEW attitude. OUT with the old, unless it's good and IN with the NEW.

Positive spin instead of blind faith and following to a union that has, by darn near every member's admission, screwed them over because they, the union, didn't fight for what the members profess that they wanted. A union is only as strong as it's members IF the union allows the members to drive and direct their fate. Time to become strong members and drive your own fate......whether it's taking concessions or getting raises or better benefits or better working conditions or more work in house. At least be able to have a voice. And that voice will/may come in the form of a ballot. VOTE!

 

[Bird Doctor]

I did not say it wasn't a merger just that the type of merger is not the same as before. Can you not understand that. Do you and Pinocchio share the same View attachment 3991

 

[delldude]

I did not say it wasn't a merger just that the type of merger is not the same as before. Can you not understand that. Do you and Pinocchio share the same View attachment 3991

spin it anyway you wish bird brain......NMB will grant single carrier status to the MERGER and there will be no vote.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

spin it anyway you wish bird brain......NMB will grant single carrier status to the MERGER and there will be no vote.

19.6 Procedure After Finding Single Transportation System
If the NMB determines that a single transportation system exists, the investigation will proceed to address the representation of the proper craft or class. (See Manual Section 19.401.) The bar rules in NMB Rules §1206.4 (29 CFR § 1206.4) do not apply to applications filed under this section. 19.601 Showing of Interest on the Single Transportation System Incumbent organizations have thirty (30) calendar days from the date of the NMB’s single transportation system determination to file an application supported by at least a thirty-five (35) percent showing of interest or to supplement the showing of interest.

I'm thinking that there will if the 35% comes through. And from what I've heard, it's pretty darn close. Plus when they add the "hold" cards, the numbers will rise.

 

[delldude]

Merger Proxy Statement
111 West Rio Salado Parkway
Tempe, Arizona 85281
To Our Stockholders:
The board of directors of America West Holdings Corporation has unanimously approved the merger of
America West Holdings with Barbell Acquisition Corp., a wholly owned subsidiary of US Airways Group,
Inc. The merger is expected to create the first full-service airline with the consumer-friendly pricing structure
of a low-fare carrier.
In the merger, holders of America West Holdings Class A common stock will receive 0.5362 of a share
of new US Airways Group common stock for each share of America West Holdings Class A common stock
they own, and holders of America West Holdings Class B common stock will receive 0.4125 of a share of
new US Airways Group common stock for each share of America West Holdings Class B common stock they
own, on the terms specified in the merger agreement.
The merger is one of a series of transactions that require the approval of the United States Bankruptcy
Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, in the pending bankruptcy proceeding of
US Airways Group and its domestic subsidiaries. The other transactions that must be approved by the
bankruptcy court, as part of a comprehensive plan of reorganization of US Airways Group and its domestic
subsidiaries, include receipt by US Airways Group of new equity financing concurrently with the merger.

if you can't compehend this,i feel sorry for you.