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[N109UW]

sky high states: Isnt flexibility about the only thing we have left? Vacation, pension, sick time, trip improving all reduced via concessions.

Why go after the BIDSHEET? GO AFTER THE RESERVE SYSTEM! Everyone hates reserve, right? You have to have reserves, so think outside the box. Why not build RESERVE LINES with "two weeks on reserve"........and the next two weeks, "vacation and open time trips built into the reserve lines". Or the first two weeks with trips built in, and the next two weeks reserve. You'd ONLY BE ON RESERVE, at the most, two weeks in a row PER MONTH. Or you could bid, back to back lines with block trips built in, then reserve at the end of one month into the next month. YOUR CHOICE.

WE HAVE TO GET RESERVES.....OFF RESERVE SOMEHOW, WHILE, not giving up another "benefit" to all of us, the bidsheet.

comments????????
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People wanted the bidsheet gone long before we gave concessions. And what trip improving concessions did we give up? Remember, that was going to be the pref bid, which our union let slide. Matter of fact the ETB was created as a trip improving benefit to the BH's. Just ask Mike Flores, he'll tell you that. Again, rsv was not a problem until this new system, so maybe e should try to get the system changed. I never complained about being a 14 year rsv until they went to the new LTO system. It's not about getting off rsv, it's about changing the system for all rsv's. I may hold a block soon, but I surely don't want the people behind me to suffer the way my UNION has let me.

 

[SKY HIGH]

It's not about getting off rsv, it's about changing the system for all rsv's. I may hold a block soon, but I surely don't want the people behind me to suffer the way my UNION has let me.

sky high states: Hence, my suggestion. LET'S "CHANGE" IT.


only stating opinions

 

[N109UW]

sky high states: Hence, my suggestion. LET'S "CHANGE" IT.
only stating opinions

Have you been here long? To change it, we need someone else in the office. Just like our last election in CLT, it wasn't "look what I have done for you", it was "you don't want to vote for her, she will give up everything" or " she wants to give up the bidsheet". We have to many BH who vote against that. As I have said earlier, we have too many blind sheep here. They are easily led astray. Why do you think there were no election meetings in CLT this year? Alot tougher to meet candidates or debate, if you don't get them all in the same room, don't you think.

 

[SKY HIGH]

We have to many BH who vote against that.

sky high states: It's NOT changing the bidsheet, per say, it's changing the RESERVE "SYSTEM".

only stating opinions

People wanted the bidsheet gone long before we gave concessions.

sky high states: And how long have you been here? "People?"...what people? your people?---> Reserves?


only stating opinions

 

[N109UW]

sky high states: It's NOT changing the bidsheet, per say, it's changing the RESERVE "SYSTEM".

only stating opinions
sky high states: And how long have you been here? "People?"...what people? your people?---> Reserves?
only stating opinions

I think you are not getting it. We need change in the office. To do that, we need others elected. The problem is, if a rsv runs, BH candidates inform the BH's that the rsv is only running to change things for the rsv's, which translates into making it worse for the BH. So, BH's will not vte for a rsv candidate. F/a(the people) have brought up giving up the bid sheet for years. Oh, and I've been here 18+ years, and you?

 

[ussnark]

Yes, the elimination of the bid sheet would produce much more blocks. It's taking the buffet out of the kitchen and instead making plates and bringing them out into the living room to share with everyone.

I would really appreciate it if you would attempt to quantify that.

To "seed" the bid sheet, a minimum of 40 hours is held in open time. I don't even think 40 hours would constitute even a half a block. but some may see it differently.

Remember, for every trip picked up off the bid sheet it is likely another trip is put back onto the bid sheet, depending on the reason for which the bid sheet is exercised.

You want to create more blocks?

Put a cap on flying, say, 85 or 105 hours. No more. No excuses.

The "A" should be forced to enforce the contract. If you do not wish to know the contract then you should not fly "A" and get the override. If you choose to be "A" and violate the contract then the FAs should make certain everyone knows about it. Embarrass the heck out of them. No more voluntary 16 plus hour duty days.

Force mgmt to follow the contract they also signed, no excuses. If mgmt attempts to take you over 15 hours then force them to buy you hotel rooms, if appropriate, or cancel. Whatever you do, get something tangible for it. No promises.

If scheduling does not know the rules then get someone who does, even if it means canceling a trip.

A whole lot of little things that can make life a whole lot easier for everyone, even mgmt.

 

[USCREW]

F/a(the people) have brought up giving up the bid sheet for years. Oh, and I've been here 18+ years, and you?

Are you on reserve or secondary? I haven't heard any primary B/Hs ever say that they want to get rid of AIL.

 

[javaboy]

now imagine being on reserve 17 years from now...

wonder what the blog would say then?

 

[FlightChic]

now imagine being on reserve 17 years from now...

wonder what the blog would say then?

There would be no blog because if I had to live in this system for 17 years I would be in an insane asylum. This reserve system makes me crazy. :wacko:

 

[BajaBabe]

I will say it again the fact that the company was trying to screw up the Reserve system was attempted in the years 1997 . I cannot at this point decide the best solution because I am not aware of all the factors that would make the skys open up. I will go on the record and state that I would listen and entertain the notion that all things are possible. I do not have the power to force the company to do anything. Its all of you collectively that have to go to the streets and get your case in front of the big guys. It personally cost me a lot to not be able to work for all of you but now that I am a free spirit I will Champion your cause.

 

[N109UW]

Are you on reserve or secondary? I haven't heard any primary B/Hs ever say that they want to get rid of AIL.

Reserve, and most are the ones that keep falling into that area of having a sec one month and then rsv the next. Primary f/a's couldn't give a rats a** about it, just like rotating rsv. They are too self centered to care for anyone below them. That's the sad part about all this. I would go for rotating rsv, just to help folks below me, mostly due to the fact I know how they have suffered. Far more than most BH could even fathom.

 

[FlightChic]

I just added some more to my blog. I would have written more but now I am just to "fatigued" to write anything else. I will add more tomorrow.

sky high states: Isnt flexibility about the only thing we have left? Vacation, pension, sick time, trip improving all reduced via concessions.

Why go after the BIDSHEET? GO AFTER THE RESERVE SYSTEM! Everyone hates reserve, right? You have to have reserves, so think outside the box. Why not build RESERVE LINES with "two weeks on reserve"........and the next two weeks, "vacation and open time trips built into the reserve lines". Or the first two weeks with trips built in, and the next two weeks reserve. You'd ONLY BE ON RESERVE, at the most, two weeks in a row PER MONTH. Or you could bid, back to back lines with block trips built in, then reserve at the end of one month into the next month. YOUR CHOICE.

WE HAVE TO GET RESERVES.....OFF RESERVE SOMEHOW, WHILE, not giving up another "benefit" to all of us, the bidsheet.

comments????????

I know a former US f/a who went to work with Alaska Airlines and he holds a block but he said the bottom reserves hold partial blocks. I would be fine with even a partial block. I did mention that idea to the union a while back after I heard about it. Thanks for mentioning it on here. It's a good idea and I would support it.

I know for me, I want us all to have something we are happy with without compromising one group or the other.


I have been reading some posts on this thread where others are getting the impression that some of us reserves are just wanting to push them aside, take their place, or make them suffer. I just want you all to know that I am not trying to get revenge on blockholders nor do I want one group to suffer at the expense of the other. I know blockholders are doing their job just as I am doing mine. I don't blame them for what we are going through. I do blame the union and the company, but not my fellow colleagues. (For the record, I was furloughed during the last contract vote so I wasn't able to vote No or voice my opinion in case someone has the idea to write in and flame me for not voting.) Our reserve system is getting worse and worse and we are all getting even more pissed off, but we aren't against the BHs, we are pissed at the union and the company so I hope you don't take offense at my outrage. I just want to fix what is broken. I do not wish harm on anyone.

OK, now I am really "fatigued" so I will get off my soapbox now.

 

[EMBFA]

If anybody is on right now, get ready. SNN just returned to the gate, they'll probably have to re-crew it.

 

[N109UW]

I just added some more to my blog. I would have written more but now I am just to "fatigued" to write anything else. I will add more tomorrow.
I know a former US f/a who went to work with Alaska Airlines and he holds a block but he said the bottom reserves hold partial blocks. I would be fine with even a partial block. I did mention that idea to the union a while back after I heard about it. Thanks for mentioning it on here. It's a good idea and I would support it.

To do that, would mean thinning out the bidsheet. Won't happen. But still, something that might be looked into. Our UNION reps will tell you the will look at it and then just forget about it. As long as they tell you they are looking into it, they think that satisfies you. Like a placebo, sort of.

 

[FlightChic]

To do that, would mean thinning out the bidsheet. Won't happen. But still, something that might be looked into. Our UNION reps will tell you the will look at it and then just forget about it. As long as they tell you they are looking into it, they think that satisfies you. Like a placebo, sort of.

Of course. They didn't even sound like they cared. They also said if we had more lines there would be more furloughs because we would have too many reserves.

I wonder how those poor souls who were quick called for SNN felt last night?